Update on new Win M70 Alaskan 30-06

[Float Pilot]

This is the new M70 Win, that was assembled in Portugal under the FN company.
It was originally shooting 6 to 8 inch groups at 100 yards.
So far I have;
1. Lapped the bore.
2. Polished the interior of the bolt assembly. And firing pin.
3. Reduced the horrible trigger pull from 6 pounds down to 3. ( needs work)
4. Removed the crappy factory bedding and re-bedded the action.
5. Free floated the barrel better than the factory did,,,,

HERE IS HOW SHE SHOOTS NOW:

FACTORY LOADS:
Old Remington 180gr Core Lock round nose
=0.80 inch group
POST RE-BED

165gr Sierra Game King SP-BT
62.0gr RL-22
Fed 210, old WW brass
3.268 col no crimp
0.89 inch group
Pressure signs on primers
POST-RE-BEDDING

178gr Hornady ELD-X
59.0 gr H-4831
FED 210 primer, Old Winchester brass
3.272 col and no crimp.
=0.80 inch group,
AFTER RE-BED

180gr Speer BoatTail Soft Point
60.0 gr H-4831
Fed 210, Old Winchester brass
3.287 col, no crimp
= 0.720 inch group, and 2,692 fps over chrono
Post Re-bed.

200gr Hornady ELD-X
57.5 gr RL-22
FED 210 primer, Od WW Brass
3.299col and no crimp.
= 0.86 inch group.
Some pressure signs on primers
POST RE-BED

200gr Hornady ELD-X, bullet deformed while seating
56.0 gr SUPERFORMANCE
FED 210 primer, Od WW Brass
3.311 col and no crimp.
= 0.70 inch group. Vertical string, 2,573 fps over chrono
pressure signs on primers dirty necks
POST RE-BED

200gr Speer flat base soft point
58.0gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.280 COL, No Crimp
=0.77 inch group left to right group
Slight crater around primer marks

200gr Speer flat base soft point
53.5gr WW STABALL 6.5
Fed 210 primer, Remington plated
3.282 inch COL, No Crimp
=0.85 inch group , 2,585 fps
Slight crater around primer marks POST RE-BED

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.5gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.337 COL, No Crimp
=0.48 inch group
Slight crater around primer marks max load in Lyman 49.

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.0 gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, OLD Winchester brass
3.229 COL, No Crimp
=0.72 inch group.... 2,477 fps over chronograph
Crater around primer marks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
53.5gr WW STABALL
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.227COL, No Crimp
=0.73 inch group,.... 2,535 fps
Slight crater around primer marks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
55.0 gr SUPERFORMANCE
Fed 210 primer, Old WW Brass
3.224 COL, No Crimp
=0.83 inch group, 2,340 fps over chrono
Slight crater around primer marks. Dirty necks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.5gr RL-22
Fed 210 primer, Old WW Brass
3.216 COL, No Crimp
=0.85 inch group 4 shots in 0.60 inch
Slight crater around primer marks.

 

[LeonardC]

Congratulations! Your efforts have paid off very nicely!

 

[tvfinak]

This is the new M70 Win, that was assembled in Portugal under the FN company.
It was originally shooting 6 to 8 inch groups at 100 yards.
So far I have;
1. Lapped the bore.
2. Polished the interior of the bolt assembly. And firing pin.
3. Reduced the horrible trigger pull from 6 pounds down to 3. ( needs work)
4. Removed the crappy factory bedding and re-bedded the action.
5. Free floated the barrel better than the factory did,,,,

HERE IS HOW SHE SHOOTS NOW:

FACTORY LOADS:
Old Remington 180gr Core Lock round nose
=0.80 inch group
POST RE-BED

165gr Sierra Game King SP-BT
62.0gr RL-22
Fed 210, old WW brass
3.268 col no crimp
0.89 inch group
Pressure signs on primers
POST-RE-BEDDING

178gr Hornady ELD-X
59.0 gr H-4831
FED 210 primer, Old Winchester brass
3.272 col and no crimp.
=0.80 inch group,
AFTER RE-BED

180gr Speer BoatTail Soft Point
60.0 gr H-4831
Fed 210, Old Winchester brass
3.287 col, no crimp
= 0.720 inch group, and 2,692 fps over chrono
Post Re-bed.

200gr Hornady ELD-X
57.5 gr RL-22
FED 210 primer, Od WW Brass
3.299col and no crimp.
= 0.86 inch group.
Some pressure signs on primers
POST RE-BED

200gr Hornady ELD-X, bullet deformed while seating
56.0 gr SUPERFORMANCE
FED 210 primer, Od WW Brass
3.311 col and no crimp.
= 0.70 inch group. Vertical string, 2,573 fps over chrono
pressure signs on primers dirty necks
POST RE-BED

200gr Speer flat base soft point
58.0gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.280 COL, No Crimp
=0.77 inch group left to right group
Slight crater around primer marks

200gr Speer flat base soft point
53.5gr WW STABALL 6.5
Fed 210 primer, Remington plated
3.282 inch COL, No Crimp
=0.85 inch group , 2,585 fps
Slight crater around primer marks POST RE-BED

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.5gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.337 COL, No Crimp
=0.48 inch group
Slight crater around primer marks max load in Lyman 49.

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.0 gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, OLD Winchester brass
3.229 COL, No Crimp
=0.72 inch group.... 2,477 fps over chronograph
Crater around primer marks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
53.5gr WW STABALL
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.227COL, No Crimp
=0.73 inch group,.... 2,535 fps
Slight crater around primer marks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
55.0 gr SUPERFORMANCE
Fed 210 primer, Old WW Brass
3.224 COL, No Crimp
=0.83 inch group, 2,340 fps over chrono
Slight crater around primer marks. Dirty necks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.5gr RL-22
Fed 210 primer, Old WW Brass
3.216 COL, No Crimp
=0.85 inch group 4 shots in 0.60 inch
Slight crater around primer marks.

5 shot groups it appears?

Sounds like you got it together!

 

[The German]

This is the new M70 Win, that was assembled in Portugal under the FN company.
It was originally shooting 6 to 8 inch groups at 100 yards.
So far I have;
1. Lapped the bore.
2. Polished the interior of the bolt assembly. And firing pin.
3. Reduced the horrible trigger pull from 6 pounds down to 3. ( needs work)
4. Removed the crappy factory bedding and re-bedded the action.
5. Free floated the barrel better than the factory did,,,,

HERE IS HOW SHE SHOOTS NOW:

FACTORY LOADS:
Old Remington 180gr Core Lock round nose
=0.80 inch group
POST RE-BED

165gr Sierra Game King SP-BT
62.0gr RL-22
Fed 210, old WW brass
3.268 col no crimp
0.89 inch group
Pressure signs on primers
POST-RE-BEDDING

178gr Hornady ELD-X
59.0 gr H-4831
FED 210 primer, Old Winchester brass
3.272 col and no crimp.
=0.80 inch group,
AFTER RE-BED

180gr Speer BoatTail Soft Point
60.0 gr H-4831
Fed 210, Old Winchester brass
3.287 col, no crimp
= 0.720 inch group, and 2,692 fps over chrono
Post Re-bed.

200gr Hornady ELD-X
57.5 gr RL-22
FED 210 primer, Od WW Brass
3.299col and no crimp.
= 0.86 inch group.
Some pressure signs on primers
POST RE-BED

200gr Hornady ELD-X, bullet deformed while seating
56.0 gr SUPERFORMANCE
FED 210 primer, Od WW Brass
3.311 col and no crimp.
= 0.70 inch group. Vertical string, 2,573 fps over chrono
pressure signs on primers dirty necks
POST RE-BED

200gr Speer flat base soft point
58.0gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.280 COL, No Crimp
=0.77 inch group left to right group
Slight crater around primer marks

200gr Speer flat base soft point
53.5gr WW STABALL 6.5
Fed 210 primer, Remington plated
3.282 inch COL, No Crimp
=0.85 inch group , 2,585 fps
Slight crater around primer marks POST RE-BED

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.5gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.337 COL, No Crimp
=0.48 inch group
Slight crater around primer marks max load in Lyman 49.

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.0 gr H-4831
Fed 210 primer, OLD Winchester brass
3.229 COL, No Crimp
=0.72 inch group.... 2,477 fps over chronograph
Crater around primer marks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
53.5gr WW STABALL
Fed 210 primer, Rem plated brass
3.227COL, No Crimp
=0.73 inch group,.... 2,535 fps
Slight crater around primer marks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
55.0 gr SUPERFORMANCE
Fed 210 primer, Old WW Brass
3.224 COL, No Crimp
=0.83 inch group, 2,340 fps over chrono
Slight crater around primer marks. Dirty necks

220gr Hornady round nose soft point
57.5gr RL-22
Fed 210 primer, Old WW Brass
3.216 COL, No Crimp
=0.85 inch group 4 shots in 0.60 inch
Slight crater around primer marks.

Ok, I've been following your Progress, and it comes to mind,,,, I need to ask what your Barrel Profile is, as my Rem M700 Mtn. Rifle .30/06 will Shoot 3-Rounds pretty quick with a close-grouping, (see Attached) but if I try a 4th Shot following those 1st-3, it's going to Fly out about 3/8" +/-, So, you can see where I'm going with this thought process,,,,, ie..... The Mtn. Rifle has a 22" Pencil Style Barrel Profile,,, thus my Question to you....... and I've been Shooting this Rifle since the Mid-80's +/-, and it doesn't matter what Ammo, or Bullet Weight---
TG

 

[SmokeRoss]

I bought a Sako years ago and it shot sub moa right from the box with just about any load I could roll for it. The point of impact might change for different ammo, but the groups always stayed tight.

 

[tvfinak]

I bought a Sako years ago and it shot sub moa right from the box with just about any load I could roll for it. The point of impact might change for different ammo, but the groups always stayed tight.

I hope you still have it!

 

[PRDATR]

I bought a Sako years ago and it shot sub moa right from the box with just about any load I could roll for it. The point of impact might change for different ammo, but the groups always stayed tight.

SR, I bought my son a Tikka 695 in 06 about 20 years ago that shoots the same way. He has never needed another big game rifle.

 

[Float Pilot]

The German..." , I need to ask what your Barrel Profile is,"

Es handelt sich um ein Sportlerprofil. Nicht zu schwer und nicht zu leicht.

 

[The German]

The German..." , I need to ask what your Barrel Profile is,"

Es handelt sich um ein Sportlerprofil. Nicht zu schwer und nicht zu leicht.

Ok then, it's a 24" Sportsman's Standard Profile Barrel, with Open Sights, I like that, as I carry my Scope in my Back-Pack when Hiking into a Hunting Area, have done this for Years, so when and if Mr. Bruin shows-up, you know it's going to be Up-Close and personnel, anyway, Good Luck going forward, and just so you don't feel like the Lone-Ranger with this New Winnie built across the Pond, I've attached something for your viewing pleasure......
TG

 

[frankie b]

The German..." , I need to ask what your Barrel Profile is,"

Es handelt sich um ein Sportlerprofil. Nicht zu schwer und nicht zu leicht.

Hi! What scope, rings and rail are you using? I just got my rifle this week and have been seeing what setups are good for it.