I am looking to tie up some rigs for soaking salmon heads. I usually put a skirt of some kind on it so it almost touches the head. I like a bigger presentation to discourage the little ones. What are your thoughts on how well UV and Glow work for halibut. Thanks for your reply!
What are your thoughts on UV and Glow for Halibut
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theultrarider
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I've always found when the fishing is slower, I get more hits on anything that has either glow tube on the leader or a glow skirt. When they are schooled up under you it really doesn't matter.
bkmail
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Roustabout lures with his UV blast on a glo white Cook inlet candy jig is deadly!
Bk
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Done a lot of comparing on the water. Near as I can tell UV is pure sales pitch and bunk. Just doesn't make a difference at all, whether shallow or deep.
Glow on the other hand can make a big difference. When they want it. I'll always try glow on slow days, and sometimes it really saves the day. It won't manufacture fish where there aren't any, but it's always worth a try when you aren't catching. Seems to turn the fish on. There are days when it doesn't work at all as other things are catching halibut, but when it works, it really works.
Something to try with the glow. Get yourself some white glow 6"or 7" plastic worms. Try threading one onto the hook of your jig. Often that cheap plastic worm trailing along at the back of the jig outfishes any skirt. I keep a bag of them on the boat at all times, and it sure pays off even when skirted glow jigs aren't scoring.
Stay alert. King salmon often grab them as they're sinking toward bottom, and sometimes even right on bottom. If your jig stops before it reaches bottom, set the hook fast and start reeling line like crazy to get rid of slack. You'll be smiling!
Glow on the other hand can make a big difference. When they want it. I'll always try glow on slow days, and sometimes it really saves the day. It won't manufacture fish where there aren't any, but it's always worth a try when you aren't catching. Seems to turn the fish on. There are days when it doesn't work at all as other things are catching halibut, but when it works, it really works.
Something to try with the glow. Get yourself some white glow 6"or 7" plastic worms. Try threading one onto the hook of your jig. Often that cheap plastic worm trailing along at the back of the jig outfishes any skirt. I keep a bag of them on the boat at all times, and it sure pays off even when skirted glow jigs aren't scoring.
Stay alert. King salmon often grab them as they're sinking toward bottom, and sometimes even right on bottom. If your jig stops before it reaches bottom, set the hook fast and start reeling line like crazy to get rid of slack. You'll be smiling!
tlingitwarrior
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Great advice, however I would add one thing. When mooching, I have found over that the most effective hook set is not to set. When I feel a bite on the way up, or if line goes slack on the drop, I never set the hook. I reel quickly, loading up the rod until rod tip is well in the water, THEN I give a hook set. I have found this to be exponentially more effective on the mooch, especially when fishing coho.
This is why I like the 2 speed reels, always keep in high gear on the drop and while jigging. When the hookup is solid switch into low range and enjoy the ride.
roud:Gotta watch it with jigs though, whether falling or in the act of jigging. The quicker you can get the line tight and drive the hook home, the more likely they are to stay buttoned. If you don't get the line tight and get right onto the fish, you'll always be wondering just why your line went briefly slack.
I agree on the no-set for mooching, but not with jigs.
Which I think is my problem. I use jigs for almost everything in the saltwater and am used to keeping tension on and a quick hook set. I even went to using jigs for silvers as I was sick of loosing fish with mooching rigs.
Some of the best halibut fishing I have ever had was with Mikes Glow Herring oil. Which part did the job, the "glow" or the "Herring oil" but I always use it now.
kasilofchrisn
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I always put glow and UV on my jigs.
I have not tested them separately though.
I will say jigs with both are killer.
To the point that I know people who have had them get hit even when not jigging them.
My dads neighbor lost his entire rod and reel setup because he set it down (not in a rod holder)to help someone land a fish. Another one grabbed his jig and instantly took his rig over the side of the boat.
I believe in both glow and UV!
UV light is the deepest penetrating light from the suns rays into the oceans depths.
I think there may be a depth range where UV is most effective but like I said I haven't tested it.
When using glow be sure it's a quality glow as there is a difference on how long they last and how bright and what color they glow.
I have not tested them separately though.
I will say jigs with both are killer.
To the point that I know people who have had them get hit even when not jigging them.
My dads neighbor lost his entire rod and reel setup because he set it down (not in a rod holder)to help someone land a fish. Another one grabbed his jig and instantly took his rig over the side of the boat.
I believe in both glow and UV!
UV light is the deepest penetrating light from the suns rays into the oceans depths.
I think there may be a depth range where UV is most effective but like I said I haven't tested it.
When using glow be sure it's a quality glow as there is a difference on how long they last and how bright and what color they glow.
Here's a neat trick. Keep your eyes open at garage sales for an old camera strobe. "Pop" your glow things a couple of times with the strobe right up against it. It really supercharges the glow, making it lots brighter and last 3x-4x as long. I wouldn't go halibut fishing without a strobe along.
kasilofchrisn
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I actually have one.
It's made just like a camera flash but made just for charging glow jigs.
I'll have to go dig it out and post the Manufacturers info.
bkmail
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Your jigs out fish everything else Chris. As you mentioned, we have idle rods in the holder with one of your cook inlet candy jigs. Three other rods are actively fishing different bait and/or lures and yours will get hammered, over, and over, and over again. No doubt in my mind the glo and UV blast work.
Better get to work, we could use more 'cause I keep sharing mine and no one gives them back, lol!!
Thanks Chris!
Bk
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Until I see anything at least vaguely looking like real data, I am 100% on board with BrownBear's assessment of "UV".
I just went to google and randomly pulled this up:
"CS Coatings UV BLAST is a clear overcoat that can be applied to any lure to reflect critical UV light. Your lure will flash even in dark, murky water where UV light, but not visible light, penetrates. Research continues to show that fish see and are attracted to UV light. And with UV BLAST you get the strongest UV enhancer available today. So why let your lures get lost in the dark? Fire them up with UV BLAST."
What a steaming pile of marketing poo. 1) if all you are doing is reflecting UV light, NOTHING can do better than chrome. 2) Blue, visible to us light, penetrates just as well as near UV, and much better than most of the UV spectrum. 3) *** does it mean to "enhance" UV?
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kasilofchrisn
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Shine a blacklight on a jig with UV enhancers.
Then one without.
You'll see what UV reflection is.
I never used to put UV enhancers on my jigs. But people asked about it alot including the owner of this site and some top notch fishermen who are members here.
I started adding the UV enhancer on everything possible because customers wanted it.
I don't have the time or money to scientifically prove whether or not it works.
But I do know that jigs I put it on out fish other jigs on the market today!
Is the UV enhancer a part of that or just hype? I sure couldn't answer that.
But it can't hurt.
I do know that glow jigs often outfish non glow jigs.
Why would a halibut bypass herring and octopus baits to hit a jig that is stationary? Something there is attracting them other than smell,motion and/or taste.
Why does a jig without bait sometimes outfish one with bait on it?
Here's the story I got.
A person fishing one of my jigs was not catching fish while others did. This lasted a few hours. The bait was removed and that jig immediately caught a fish. Now obviously the bait was affecting the jigs action.
But why would a bouncing jig with real fish bait not work until the bait was removed? I mean it had to have smelled and tasted better before the bait was removed.
Believe in UV enhancers or not I'm going to keep adding them to my fishing jigs I make and sell. If you don't like UV enhancers don't put them on your jigs or buy jigs without them.
Most of those made in China jigs don't have UV enhancers and I'd wager good money my jig with UV will out fish it anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
Maybe it's not the UV that's working so well but for the cost I'm not leaving it out.
Then one without.
You'll see what UV reflection is.
I never used to put UV enhancers on my jigs. But people asked about it alot including the owner of this site and some top notch fishermen who are members here.
I started adding the UV enhancer on everything possible because customers wanted it.
I don't have the time or money to scientifically prove whether or not it works.
But I do know that jigs I put it on out fish other jigs on the market today!
Is the UV enhancer a part of that or just hype? I sure couldn't answer that.
But it can't hurt.
I do know that glow jigs often outfish non glow jigs.
Why would a halibut bypass herring and octopus baits to hit a jig that is stationary? Something there is attracting them other than smell,motion and/or taste.
Why does a jig without bait sometimes outfish one with bait on it?
Here's the story I got.
A person fishing one of my jigs was not catching fish while others did. This lasted a few hours. The bait was removed and that jig immediately caught a fish. Now obviously the bait was affecting the jigs action.
But why would a bouncing jig with real fish bait not work until the bait was removed? I mean it had to have smelled and tasted better before the bait was removed.
Believe in UV enhancers or not I'm going to keep adding them to my fishing jigs I make and sell. If you don't like UV enhancers don't put them on your jigs or buy jigs without them.
Most of those made in China jigs don't have UV enhancers and I'd wager good money my jig with UV will out fish it anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
Maybe it's not the UV that's working so well but for the cost I'm not leaving it out.
kasilofchrisn
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Thanks Brian!
They do work well that much I know.
Is the UV enhancer part of the reason?
Well for the cost I can't see leaving it off.
There's just too many variables in fishing that I want to give myself and others the greatest chance possible.
Then again the less people using these jigs means more fish left in the ocean for me to catch.[emoji23]
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Firm believer in UV enhancement as well as glow. After testing quite a bit of stuff I know for a fact that both have their uses...UV when the sun is out or fairly bright day and glow for low light. This is based on bottom fish. My glow hoochies out perform the rest any given day for salmon.
kasilofchrisn
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For me it is in the powder paint I put on when I make the jigs.
Glow has to be put on when a jig or lure is made or repainted.
The UV I use is a clear coat powder paint as well.
The ones I use are expensive but very good quality.
You can get UV sprays if you can find someone who's willing to ship it.
Maybe Cabela's or Basspro in Anchorage carry it?
Not sure how well the sprays last or if they are as good as the clear coats though.
I'd make you some jigs with UV and Glow but I'm no longer selling jigs.
If you want to check some out send me a PM and I could probably arrange for you to check out what I use at my shop in Soldotna.
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