UCI Set net harvest vs set net harvest
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All the info you could want about who is harvesting/killing kings is here. Even has C&R morts! Table on Page 25 has the info on harvest from all the major players for LR kings.
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/regulations/regprocess/fisheriesboard/pdfs/2016-2017/uci/rc3.pdf
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/regulations/regprocess/fisheriesboard/pdfs/2016-2017/uci/rc3.pdf
That is for Kings. I was looking for set net harvest vs drift fleet for Sockeye. I certainly was not very clear in my question!
Jackson's Dad
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This may be what you are looking for:
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=commercialbyareauci.salmon_harvest
You can at least look at what each district harvested and probably tease out the info you are after.
Cheers,
Jay
http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=commercialbyareauci.salmon_harvest
You can at least look at what each district harvested and probably tease out the info you are after.
Cheers,
Jay
I think the basic information tables on the CFEC website have what you are looking for. They present the information by pounds of fish and value (but not numbers of fish) for the set net group and also drifters. Here’s a link to UCI setnet:
https://www.cfec.state.ak.us/bit/X_S04H.htm
By the way; you Craig Medrid followers out there probably don’t want to look at these tables. It shows the facts about AK resident versus nonresident participation.
https://www.cfec.state.ak.us/bit/X_S04H.htm
By the way; you Craig Medrid followers out there probably don’t want to look at these tables. It shows the facts about AK resident versus nonresident participation.
Get the UCI Commercial Fisheries Annual Management report. All the data you want by species will be in that report. Shields is the author and you can get to it on the ADFG webpage. Just be careful about using these numbers with counts in river. The counts in river are for large chinook in recent years.
kidfromgarcia
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they need to see that most of the UCI setnet holders are residents and see if they ignore those facts meanwhile I think I remember seeing that nearly all guided anglers are nonresident. That is fine with me. For those who want to complain about nonresidents taking salmon the number of nonresident guided anglers taking king salmon is something that is probably higher than the number of nonresident commercials taking king salmon.
I think it would be more accurate to say the majority of all guided anglers are nonresident, “not nearly all”. Have you ever been on the river when AIH would have their 2 day tournament for their employees? What about the Wounded Warrior event? I asked my neighbor, guide boat #3, about his clients and he said the entire last week of the season he fishes local Soldotna residents and he’s been doing it for years. I think guides fish a lot more Alaskans than you realize. Yukon, what say you?
kidfromgarcia
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You are correct some guides do fish Alaskans. There are also plenty of nonresident guides and nonresident guides do guide Alaska residents. There is reports and lots of information tables about logbooks and who fishes with guides if an overwhelming landslide or vast majority is what you call a majority then yes I will agree and say it is a majority. When I fish in Canada most of the guides at the couple lodges I have been to are not Canada residents, most of the people who fish are not Canada residents. Pretty sure fact is like that in guided fishing everywhere vast majority of the people who use guides are not residents of that state, province.
So when people play this resident vs nonresident card what point are they trying to make? the comfish guys say it's jobs for Alaskans and the sport guys reply they are nonresident and the comfish guys say guides take nonresidents fishing. Maybe they are trying to say all the fish should stay in Alaska or only Alaska residents should be able to sport or commercial fish in Alaska? Or are they trying to prove that one is more important than the other so comm fish or sport should be eliminated? Maybe the point is if you eliminated nonresident sport or nonresident comm fish they automatically think there would be more for themselves? Not sure. There are Alaska Tour bus driver who are nonresidents, some park rangers at brooks camp are nonresidents, some oil field workers are nonresidents, plenty of college students are nonresidents, I've flown with air charter pilots who are nonresidents, why do sport and comm fish people argue so much about nonresidents in fishing?
A friend of mine who is a long time Kenai area guide and local resident tells me that during salmon season his clientele is 2:1 resident:non-resident during salmon season, and 2:1 non-resident:resident during trout season.
fishNphysician
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OTF was 69 yday with only 2 of 6 stations fishing. Everybody's fishing district-wide today, including Kenai Section setnetters (their opener for the season) so it will be a very good indication of what's out there. I'll place my bets on the drift fleet once the stats come in on Tuesday.
Really going out on a limb, aren't you?
Drifters are in Area 1 today, South of Kalgin Island. They are not fishing district-wide today.
fishNphysician
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OOPS! My bad... should have said everyone's fishing and all of the ESSN's will be open.
Listen to recording: http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=commercialbyareauci.main
Read announcement: http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=commercialbyareauci.salmon
alaskanharvest
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"The nets" are never "in at the mouth of the Kasilof" unless your are referring to the dipnetters.
kidfromgarcia
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The last time a report was written that summarized what Kenai River guides guided it was in the way high percent non resident. I am looking for a way to find the report. So this would be the summation of all the guides and all the guided outings they had. It was in the neighborhood of 1 resident for every 9 or 10 non residents. The industry thrives with nonresidents it needs them to be an industry. This was an easy concept to understand monetarily speaking if nonresidents are restricted the guides are boxed-in. This is basically why the guide industry has not been able to edge into the dipnetting a few are doing it but the market is a very limited ceiling.
Thank you.
Not true. Commercial gill net openers happen at the mouth of the Kasilof and the dip netters are up in the river a ways.
