- Dec 10, 2021
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This was my dog. What is going to happen if the next time it’s a toddler? People travel to where I was all the time to see it. All walks of life.
You mean bird and game and tracking dogs aren’t on leashes for training or hunting or tracking? (Yes I am being sarcastic).So as a person who bird hunts with dogs what is a way we can all be aware there are traps in a specific area. I take you word for it signs break but if you are checking your traps responsibly, putting up another sign shouldnt be that big of a issue. It seems like some trappers just dont want to be inconvenienced by putting up a sign or a new sign if it gets weathered out. Instead they would rather accidently get a dog in a trap and deal with more upset people recreating in the same area. Just seems like a little initiative and giving notice to people would go a long way to atleast give people a heads up. Mark, can we not agree that a sign would help alleviate bad interactions with people who recreate with dogs.
My last statement referred to inconsiderate people. The topic was trapping. I wasn’t insulting with a broad brush- just inconsiderate people. There are many crappy dog owners.Oh Boy here we go. Now the traps are going to kill some kid. How about do a little google search and post all the kids hurt in traps. I am aware of one incident in North Carolina maybe 5-10 years ago....
On the other hand look up kids injured by dogs. Here's a little something for starters:
Dog bite injuries present a significant public health problem. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, approximately 4.5 million people are bitten by dogs each year. Because of their size and immaturity, children are much more likely to be bitten than adults.
Children aged 5 through 9 years are at greatest risk of dog bites. The face and scalp are consistently reported as the most frequent location of injury, and younger children are more likely to have severe injuries.
AKBEE lets hear about all the lazy and unethical dog owners while we're making broad brush insults.
That is what my very experienced trapper buddy said, and I would say that there are many lazy and unethical people fishing, hunting, camping, off-roading, as well as most things. It only takes a few bad people or incidents to create a bad perception of things as a whole.AKBEE thanks for that clarification it sounds like we may agree. I must have misinterpreted what you meant with "there are many lazy and unethical people trapping."
I say if you let your dogs off the lease then YOU are responsible for them getting into a trap and YOU should pay for any damages the dog causes to the trap.
I never mentioned anything about this being in Alaska, don't know where you got that??Sorry, but this is bogus.
If I’m out in the woods with my dog, he’s not gonna be on a leash unless I see a reason to. The idea that there “might” be traps out there (because this is Alaska after all) isn’t even an argument.
Wow. Congrats on being super ignorant. If I said what I really wanted to I would probably get banned. And I'd say the same thing if it was in person.I say if you let your dogs off the lease then YOU are responsible for them getting into a trap and YOU should pay for any damages the dog causes to the trap.
Trappers are out to make a living, NOT hurt pets, they do their best to reach that goal every season without any conflicts
Say whatever you want but your dog is your responsibilityWow. Congrats on being super ignorant. If I said what I really wanted to I would probably get banned. And I'd say the same thing if it was in person.
I understand what you are saying, and I believe you are correct on many of your statements. The problem is, you are stating your' opinions as facts. They are from your experiences and I know you believe them to be true. Your anecdotal references are just a very small sample size in a great big state with a whole lot of users.By my experience, plain English works great. Easy actual examples I can recall: "Trapline trail. Snares and traps set IN THE TRAIL. Please keep out. Trapper Bob 907-555-1212". Or in the instance of a multi-user section line trail: "Snares set IN THE MAIN TRAIL, please use bypass trails Trapper Joe 907-555-1212". I lived in Unit-13 for ten years and traveled trails there extensively, by snowmachine, and skijoring with my dogs. Many people marked their trails and sets. Some did not. We always respected trails marked as in the first example, and never heard of any traps being stolen. The second example was also fairly common and we always used the bypass trails when traveling those section line trails where guys hung neck snares for wolf on the long straightaways. We occasionally called a trapper, too, to notify him that he had a wolf standing in one of his traps. It's really not that difficult to be a decent member of society and post a sign or two for your fellow humans. It doesn't take much more effort than making excuses for not doing so. Flagging works fine to mark individual sets or bypass trail junctions. You can get flagging made for arctic conditions that holds up longer, but plain old cheap surveyor's tape that everyone uses works fine. Yes, occasionally a moose will pull down a streamer, but not often enough to worry about. I mark my property boundaries and trails with the cheap run of the mill stuff and it lasts for several years. In the OP's example a simple sign on a picket facing the water that said there are traps on the beach would suffice just fine. It's really not that difficult.
Your choice to let your dog off the leash is fine, BUT don't go whining when he gets messed up in a trap because it is YOUR choice to let him run free
I can’t roll my eyes enough at this comment…I never mentioned anything about this being in Alaska, don't know where you got that??
What would you say to a parent that let his/her toddler go where your dog went unsupervised? Please, lets not do that.This was my dog. What is going to happen if the next time it’s a toddler? People travel to where I was all the time to see it. All walks of life.
Ok maybe 1% of the land up here has traps on it so I am a irresponsible dog owner of if I go out hunting into rhe woods with my dog and it gets into a trap because it wasnt on a leash. You got to be f kidding me. That's a garbage thought. Keep giving trappers a black eye, you're doing a great job bud.Say whatever you want but your dog is your responsibility