Shooting and drinking a couple
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kasilofchrisn
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I don't drink period! Never have.
I don't need alcohol to have a good time and enjoy life.
I can honestly say I've never drank alcohol and handled a firearm!
You watch someone you love die from drinking too much alcohol and it changes you especially as a young child.
At least it did for me and that's why I decided I don't need alcohol in my life.
Don't get me wrong I'm not going to tell other people how to live their lives.
But if alcohol is so important that you need it even at the gun range maybe you need to reevaluate your life choices.
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I don’t drink and have taken care of many drinkers and their victims of stupidity. You may want to look at ccw law regarding drinking before bragging about drinking and carrying. In such a litigious society, can you imagine getting scrutinized by a jury/judge as the lawyers shred your lack of sense in imbibing while carrying a gun if you were involved in an incident? It is difficult making split second decisions in some situations and I sure would want to be clear headed both legally, ethically, and morally. Firearm ownership carries a great responsibility and to dismiss that is plain idiotic. You are held accountable to a standard and being sober while carrying is not asking much. You can tout yourself as the bad-ass, wanna-be that can drink and not be impaired, but that is just false bravado. Anyone in healthcare knows is a person says they had 2 drinks, they had at least 4. Maybe your goal is trolling to stir things up.
HUNTERKJL
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A big part of it is also perception as has been mentioned. Others around the one drinking a beer or two have no idea how many or how much they are drinking and how responsible they are. I just think the two activities do not go together, not even in hunting camp. Once the alcohol comes out, the firearms should be put away is my opinion. I do drink my share of strong black coffee at the range just because it is my favored drink all hours of the day!
iofthetaiga
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Besides being extraordinarily stupid, that's very illegal.
No, you are very much talking about being an irresponsible idiot.
He's just trolling imo.
bottom_dweller
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I’m not biting
orangejuicy
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Addiction is sneaky. It has certainly convinced some smart and talented people from every walk of life of whatever it is that they needed convincing of to keep using. It should not be an issue to not drink a beer with shooting or hunting. If that's a problem, then its a problem.
Anyone who drinks in a hunting camp I'm in will be asked to leave and not come back. Or, I will leave and not come back. Either is fine with me. You want to drink? Alcohol is such a big part of your life that you can't go without it for a couple of days or weeks? You've got a problem. I'm not going to be a part of it. Be stupid on your own.
tundrawooky
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So that's makes me an idiot for drinking one beer out of my backpack after climbing a mountain on my hunting trip??? I think y'all are over reacting and trolling yourselves, very close minded. The same type of people that smoke weed and take pills etc. Obviously impairment is wrong with firearms, but one beer? C'mon MAN!!!!
I am not closed-minded. I have just seen what alcohol does through many years in the ICU. Stabbing, shootings, beatings, domestic violence, traffic accident and fatalities, fetal alcohol syndrome, suicide attempts and suicides, murders- all from folks who drank too much. Caring for a banged up drunk who killed a family with kids in a car that all burned to death was not fun. Most drinkers with issues downplay it as you do. If your first thought when ‘climbing a mountain’ on a hunt is to have a beer, yes you have an issue. I agree about weed or pills as well since any impairment can lead to deadly consequences. Do you reload your ‘ripsnorting’ loads while drinking? Would you want your excavator operator, rafting guide, dentist, surgeon, lawyer, accountant, taxi driver, etc be drinking on the job. Would it bother you to have a drinking bus driver transporting loved ones? I hoped you were trolling, but your ignorant and idiotic posts regarding different weapons/topics and now this, you are not trolling. You are the type of person who gives outdoorsmen a bad name and I have no use for.
urbanhillbilly
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I’ve been reading and have been contemplating a response, so here goes… FYI, I tend to play devil's advocate on occasion
#1- I notice no one jumped down cdubbin’s throat for his drinking while in possession of a firearm in post 16 where he was in a much more dangerous situation… Let’s be honest
#2- Getting drunk is dumb and immature, again let’s be honest, but having a single drink with lunch in the middle of the day is not. That’s the kind of drinker I used to be and there was nothing wrong with it at all. Although the fact that the OP had his best match ever after having a beer is purely coincidence and has nothing to do with the alcohol…
#3- I was the kind of person that could drink one or two and know my limitations. I personally hate the feeling of drunk or any impairment…
#3.5- My wife on the other hand was the person who drank to get drunk. No other reason, right? If she was gonna drink, then she was gonna get lit. No questions asked, no matter the situation. At restaurants, at home, morning, noon, and night. For her it was something to help distract her from the anxiety, depression, and trauma that plagues her heart and soul.
So yes, there are people who have one or two and know that’s enough. Then there are people who literally cannot do that. My wife and I have been sober for 6.5 years now and it’s pretty freaking awesome…
Yes, there is a line to be drawn, but that line is going to be a case by case situation when it comes to how much a person can drink and not be impaired.
Should one ever take alcohol with them while planning to go recreational shooting? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Not in any amount or variety.
I personally don’t see the wrong in having a (singular) drink with lunch and then after some time has passed going to the range. This is completely different than someone pulling shooter’s out of their pocket.
Sure, I may make sense to some and totally tick off some others, but that’s all we do with these things… but at least treat each other with some friggin respect in your posts.
#1- I notice no one jumped down cdubbin’s throat for his drinking while in possession of a firearm in post 16 where he was in a much more dangerous situation… Let’s be honest
#2- Getting drunk is dumb and immature, again let’s be honest, but having a single drink with lunch in the middle of the day is not. That’s the kind of drinker I used to be and there was nothing wrong with it at all. Although the fact that the OP had his best match ever after having a beer is purely coincidence and has nothing to do with the alcohol…
#3- I was the kind of person that could drink one or two and know my limitations. I personally hate the feeling of drunk or any impairment…
#3.5- My wife on the other hand was the person who drank to get drunk. No other reason, right? If she was gonna drink, then she was gonna get lit. No questions asked, no matter the situation. At restaurants, at home, morning, noon, and night. For her it was something to help distract her from the anxiety, depression, and trauma that plagues her heart and soul.
So yes, there are people who have one or two and know that’s enough. Then there are people who literally cannot do that. My wife and I have been sober for 6.5 years now and it’s pretty freaking awesome…
Yes, there is a line to be drawn, but that line is going to be a case by case situation when it comes to how much a person can drink and not be impaired.
Should one ever take alcohol with them while planning to go recreational shooting? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Not in any amount or variety.
I personally don’t see the wrong in having a (singular) drink with lunch and then after some time has passed going to the range. This is completely different than someone pulling shooter’s out of their pocket.
Sure, I may make sense to some and totally tick off some others, but that’s all we do with these things… but at least treat each other with some friggin respect in your posts.
Yup. Let's tap that keg and then load up some ripsnorters. Afterwards we'll head to the range and show those cowboys our ripsnorting loads. They'll surely be impressed with our ripsnorting loads and how we shoot them. What could possibly go wrong?
bottom_dweller
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You funny smoke!
kwackkillncrew
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now we cant even have a beer after hunting all day while sitting at camp. that camp sounds wee bit boring. let see who can stick their nose up the highest! i dont drink while i am hunting or shooting guns. But if someone is about to say having a beer at camp is irresponsible and "stupid" i think they have a problem. Alcohol isnt a big part of my life but i am an adult and enjoy a beer after hunting hard all day.
cdubbin
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Probably because drinking one beer while hiking with an unchambered rifle, miles from anyone, is pretty different from drinking at the range...I won't go to any range, period, because I've observed too many idiots over the years...I'll just take my beer and my gun and go miles out in the backcountry where it's safer LOL...
I personally have no use for alcohol or drinkers. I've had my fill. I was married to an alcoholic for 13 years. (She still drinks heavily to this day.) I'm sure that experience makes me the way I am. I avoid drinkers and alcohol at all times. Have absolutely no use for it whatsoever. And no, I don't smoke weed or take pills. I don't need anything to alter reality for me. Alcohol is a poison. Why folks want to poison themselves is beyond me. If my hunting camp is "boring" because there is no alcohol, then so be it. I rather enjoy it that way. Enough things can go wrong without adding alcohol to the mix. Like I said, if alcohol is such a big part of your life that you can't do without it, you've got a problem. Not me.
4merguide
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You might want to read it again. He didn't say alcohol was a big part of his life, in fact quite the opposite. Plus he didn't say he couldn't do without it either. I do understand where you're coming from though. I too have seen what alcohol can do to people. But you have to understand that not all people drink to get a buzz or get drunk. I'm sitting here right now with my feet up and having a beer. I just got off work and enjoy the taste of this beer. I usually have one when I get home before dinner. But then again, sometimes I just don't feel like a beer and can go weeks or months without wanting to have one. Oh, and btw, there are guns in the next room. I really can't see where having a beer, or a drink at hunting camp after hunting all day and getting ready to hit the sack is really much different than having one at home. Having a beer or a drink after a hunt and the guns are all put away, imo is quite a bit different than drinking and shooting at the same time.
martentrapper
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4mer, you work? Thought sure you would have retired wealthy after all your years as a guide!! The comment about CCW and having a drink in the restaurant caught my attention. I suspect there are plenty of folks who carry and have had a drink or 2......or more. Just as there are plenty of drivers out there with a few under there belt. Most of us use public ranges here in Alaska. Next time your at one look at the other folks on the line. Likely a few have had a drink. I never thought of that before this thread.
I believe if you are pulled over and get breath check and fail..........and you also possess a firearm...........you get a DUI charge AND a misconduct involving weapons charge. I also hear that Wildlife officers ask about drinking/alcohol when stopping by hunting camps. The legal parameters/problems around alcohol, driving, and firearms are too serious for me to risk in most cases.
I believe if you are pulled over and get breath check and fail..........and you also possess a firearm...........you get a DUI charge AND a misconduct involving weapons charge. I also hear that Wildlife officers ask about drinking/alcohol when stopping by hunting camps. The legal parameters/problems around alcohol, driving, and firearms are too serious for me to risk in most cases.
tundrawooky
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Most of you over reacted, I don't care about your alcoholic hooker ex wife drinking 15 natty ice in the ICU after rolling a trailer park transam with a meth addict in the passenger seat with a hipoint. What this post is about is responsible people that have an occasional drink or two. The negative comments about my "rip snortin loads" again are unwarranted, you don't know what loads I'm using with what cases etc. How many of you actually live in Alaska??
sounds like alot of lower 48/California type of thinking.....
Lighten up, live a little, laugh a little.
sounds like alot of lower 48/California type of thinking.....
Lighten up, live a little, laugh a little.
