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I currently have a 1984 Bayliner 2860 28' long with a 10' beam). I repowered it with a 6.0L Marine Power back in 2008 but I did not replace the outdrive. The motor has approximately 400 hours on it now. I currently have an old Volvo outdrive 270 (I think) that was converted to a duo-prop sometime before I bought the boat in 2004. Because it is the "old style" outdrive with the electric lift motor and starting to wear out I think I am ready to have a new outdrive installed.
I wish I would have replaced the outdrive when I repowered, but didn't.

What do I need to know before taking the plunge to have a new outdrive installed? I am looking for suggestions on which outdrive, gear ratio and etc. Is it safe to buy a remanufactured outdrive or should I go new.

Any idea of how much my boat weighs? I am not a mechanic so I am really looking for suggestions on where to start.

The boat lives in Prince Williams Sound in Alaska and in salt water for about six-seven months a year.

Thanks,
Rod
 

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Rod, This is some info I dug up a few years back as I was interested in a 2860 at that time.
They only made them for a few years and not a ton of info.

I cannot verify accuracy

2860 1984-1987
Bayliner Trophy 2860 CuddySpecifications. The following specs for Bayliner Boats are forinformational purposes only;
Length: 27′ 5″
Beam: 10′0″ or 9-6?
Draft: 2′ 4″
Weight: 6000 lbs
Fuel tanksize: 144 gallons
Water tank size: 30 gals

I would think 6000 pounds may be on the light side. BOC may be a good resource for you, particularly for the outdrive.

http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/

How does the boat perform with the 6.0 ?
 

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Bayliner 2860 Help

Bayliner 2860 Help

Akgramps,

Thanks for sharing this information. This will be a good place for me to start. I agree 6000 pounds is on the lighter side. When I repowered the boat I also increased the fuel tank to a 170 gallons (old tank failed). Before I repowered it had the old 260 HP volvo engine and it had a hard time getting up on plane and burned 18-20 GPH and cruised at 18 knots at around 4000 rpm's.

The 6.0L (375 HP) Vortec pushed the boat at 23-24 knots at 3500 rpm's and burned between 10-12 GPH depending on the water conditions. I love the 2860 hull it is a very nice design for PWS, plenty of deck space and ample cabin space.

I have been on the BOC website and searched every link that has anything to do with the 2860 and posted the same question and have not gotten a response yet.

Thanks again,

Rod
 

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I too like the 2860 a whole bunch. When I researched them I remember the 6000 pounds was the weight of the bare hull. I could be remembering wrong.....
 

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Ah the 28' Trophy is one of Bayliner's gems. That boat is a solid 8,000 boat. Save yourself a whole bunch of time and call up Noah's Marine in Anchorage he can set you up with the proper drive model and ratio for your boat and engine. The biggest trouble you are going to have is the large 270 transom cutout, but I think Volvo has a solution for that as well to fit a new drive. I know a few people with Bayliner 2859s who have the 6.0 engine too, better than the 350 and way better than the 454. I have the 6.0 in my GMC crew cab.

I saw this on the Bayliner Owners Club site: User name is Ofishal
1984 Bayliner / Trophy 2860 Offshore Sportfish
Volvo D4 300 Diesel DPH Drive Turning G5's
Yamaha 9.9 High Thrust with remote and 2 station hydraulic steering
4 Scotty Electrics
12000# Triple axle Fast Load aluminum Trailer

Let us know what you end up with!

Sobie2
 

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Ah the 28' Trophy is one of Bayliner's gems. That boat is a solid 8,000 boat. Save yourself a whole bunch of time and call up Noah's Marine in Anchorage he can set you up with the proper drive model and ratio for your boat and engine. The biggest trouble you are going to have is the large 270 transom cutout, but I think Volvo has a solution for that as well to fit a new drive. I know a few people with Bayliner 2859s who have the 6.0 engine too, better than the 350 and way better than the 454. I have the 6.0 in my GMC crew cab.

I saw this on the Bayliner Owners Club site: User name is Ofishal
1984 Bayliner / Trophy 2860 Offshore Sportfish
Volvo D4 300 Diesel DPH Drive Turning G5's
Yamaha 9.9 High Thrust with remote and 2 station hydraulic steering
4 Scotty Electrics
12000# Triple axle Fast Load aluminum Trailer

Let us know what you end up with!

Sobie2

I'd bet that D4 package will be 40 grand, i would in NO WAY have a 4 cylinder diesel putting out 300hp in my boat, its a short term engine. I'd think i'd look at the outfit in Seward before anybody in anchorage. By the way i answered the OP in his post in the rebuilds section.
The last and final time i went to Noah's I told Andy what part i was looking for, he snidely asks me "whats the part number" i say thats your job not mine while holding up the old part for him to see(it was a very common part), he looks like i just put a dog turd under his nose and goes to look up the part number and gives me the part. I don't need attitude when i go into a business to spend money, i never went back.
 

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If you upgrade to the newer Volvo outdrive, I would consider getting a DPH-C and not a DPH-A. The earlier ones had top end oiling problems and were not as strong. A new DPH outdrive is on the order of $10K.
 

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Akgramps,

Thanks for sharing this information. This will be a good place for me to start. I agree 6000 pounds is on the lighter side. When I repowered the boat I also increased the fuel tank to a 170 gallons (old tank failed). Before I repowered it had the old 260 HP volvo engine and it had a hard time getting up on plane and burned 18-20 GPH and cruised at 18 knots at around 4000 rpm's.

The 6.0L (375 HP) Vortec pushed the boat at 23-24 knots at 3500 rpm's and burned between 10-12 GPH depending on the water conditions. I love the 2860 hull it is a very nice design for PWS, plenty of deck space and ample cabin space.

I have been on the BOC website and searched every link that has anything to do with the 2860 and posted the same question and have not gotten a response yet.

Thanks again,

Rod

That seems pretty economical for a 28' X 10', I hope our 24' Glasply does that good when we get it done. How do you like the cabin layout? Seems like the galley was split up with sink up and stove down...if I remember correctly, maybe it was the other way around....?
 

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AKgramps,


I do like the cabin layout and the sink is up and the stove is down. We do not use the stove down below because my wife done not like the fumes in the sleeping area. We use a butane portable stove next to the sink. I have considered switching them around but fishing keeps getting in the was :) I do like the table being above where the kids can seen what is going on while we are underway. Overall I am very happy with the boat and the 6.0L seems to be enough power for me and fuel economy. I trailer the boat less then 10 miles a year so the 10' beam does not get in the way.
 

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If you upgrade to the newer Volvo outdrive, I would consider getting a DPH-C and not a DPH-A. The earlier ones had top end oiling problems and were not as strong. A new DPH outdrive is on the order of $10K.

I was hoping to keep the Volvo outdrive and transom shield under 10K but I don't think that is going to be possible.
 
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