pipercub
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I’ve got a new Honda GX200, will put a bigger jet in it. That is the only mod it is getting for now. Went with a long tail off the 20” transom. Hopefully it arrives before too long…
Long tail mud motor on a freighter canoe?
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I was thinking more inflatable canoe with twister tail for more portability and maneuverability. Transporting on a plane in western AL. Anyone have experience with that?
mp214parks
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My limited experience with inflatables is that they are fairly good at a couple things and really bad at everything else. Depending on your scenario it might be your best option, but it won’t be pretty!
Couple U tube videos on this subject. One with twister tail, but no comment on close quarters handling. If doable it would really open up some back country access
iusckeeper
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I got an 8hp I'd sell ya.
iusckeeper
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What site is that?
there are some good points on the long tail as well as bad good points as I see it ,
no broken shear pins as old motors , real thin water , swamps don't bother the long tail ,
bad points ? very careful on tight turns , have to start with prop out of water , [ no reverse or neutral .]
you will need wide water to run down small streams , if the stream is narrow an lots of brush real bad news
for you , it will work but be careful , out there , the center of gravity has changed a lot [ higher ] compared to the outboard motor ,
no broken shear pins as old motors , real thin water , swamps don't bother the long tail ,
bad points ? very careful on tight turns , have to start with prop out of water , [ no reverse or neutral .]
you will need wide water to run down small streams , if the stream is narrow an lots of brush real bad news
for you , it will work but be careful , out there , the center of gravity has changed a lot [ higher ] compared to the outboard motor ,
Alaska Bush Hunter
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Where are you ?
pipercub
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iusckeeper
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Sorry... I jumped the gun... it's a long shaft
I'm in Eagle River.
Alaska Bush Hunter
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Sorry Short Shaft wanted !Sorry... I jumped the gun... it's a long shaft
pipercub
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Went with the Beaverdam long tail, which is basically a made in Thailand version. Running a 6.5hp Honda, goes faster than the 2 stroke - 8hp Johnson pushes it…and runs in much shallower water.
Alaska Bush Hunter
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I used a 6.5 swamp runner 1 day and sold it within a month. I used it on my 19’ with lift. I went back to my outboard. I would like to find a Yamaha or Suzuki 8 HP or 15HP short shaft 2 stroke.
pipercub
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You don’t want to use a lift with a long tail, you want it on the top of the transom - as low as possible. Will not work with a raised transom…the beaverdam has the lowest mount of any.
mainer_in_ak
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I like a long tail, that way there, when some freak warm spell floods your parking spot with 4 ft of overflow, you can pull a single bolt and flee haha!
mainer_in_ak
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Ben my old neighbor nice square stern! Id take that any day of the week over an obsolete aluminum tin can or one of these useless chinese inflatables or the disposable plastic wonders shipped up from down south.
What are the odds, that 2 guys who used to live across the street from each other almost 15 years ago would still be doing the canoe design thing over decade later? I remember back in 2011, you had a sleek race canoe project, and I had a 22 foot male-plug going, but hadn't yet built the female mold.
You moved up near Cantwell right? I ended up getting into an airplane hanger to finish the molds.
For those of you that don't know Ben, he is an amazing canoe designer, top-notch canoe racer and an even better family man. Canoe building is brutal work, so please consider his stuff before one of these garbage chinese inflatables. It ain't easy, keeping a shop heated in Alaska either.
I saw two float-trip "big-dogs" publicly beliitle each other over their services and products on another forum. Easy to do when your dealing chinese boats and don't have to use Alaskan LABOR to build your product. That was a sad send-off from an old dog to a new dog.
Not how it works with us canoe guys. I'm thrilled youre building a nice Grumman replacement. Alaskan outdoorsman don't even know how lucky they are.......
