Leaving carcass by the bait

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What’s everyone’s experiences with leaving bear carcasses by the bait station?
I’ve left black bears by bait and now I have a grizz by the bait, to big to move. Has anyone seen this effect their activity or no?
 

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Great question. The griz that was taken on the bait a few weeks ago had grizzlies eating on it right away. But another griz we left never got touched, but the bears just stepped around it to get into the barrel. The griz carcass that attacked that guy a few years ago, nothing touched it or went near it, and it finally disintegrated to dust. My theory is that it depends on the bear and where it was at in the food chain. I think a big boar carcass scares off smaller bears and sows. Most carcasses that get eaten are younger bears, say 7 foot or smaller in our area. It's something I've been pondering and studying for the last 4 years of baiting. Been baiting for 8 years, but could only shoot grizzlies the last 4 years.
 

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No experiences with grizz. But on the black bear baits the carcass is usually started to be eaten the next day. Size doesn't seem to matter, they just get eaten up. Some get dragged off, some eaten in place. I think the eagle and raven activity on the kill help others find the bait site.
 

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I have only ever seen one grizz carcass eaten by bears and it wasn’t by bait and I have yet to have a black bear carcass eaten by bait. Maybe my baits to good? Lol I guess just supports the fact all bears are different and maybe it just depends on the bear. No hard fast rules with bears.
 

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It will attract thousands of birds. And thousands of birds communicates to "ALL" Predators meat available. So I fail to see any down side. I will say that Eagles can eat any entire Wide Bay 800-900 pound Brown Bear carcass in about 3 or 4 days.
Been my experience that bears will walk right past bear meat "Roughly" 80% of the time. Even walk right up to it, then walk way.
 

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In 2015 when my wife got her brown bear, it died +/- 80yds from the bait. What we left of the carcass wasn’t much, but NOTHING touched it at all. The bait went cold from that day (May 15th) till the first week of July when a small black bear cruised by. We checked it and attempted too rebait it several times a week too. Nada!! I think it was the odor of the carcass from possibly being the dominant bear in the area that was close enough too the bait that it kept all others at bay.. Never had that happen before or since that season... Go figure..
 

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You may remember my carcass from my 9’7” brownie. This was the pic I had of it exactly 48 hours after I had left it intact. Both ravens an eagles everywhere around the area. They absolutely devoured this bear. So yes, it doesn’t take long!
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It will attract thousands of birds. And thousands of birds communicates to "ALL" Predators meat available. So I fail to see any down side. I will say that Eagles can eat any entire Wide Bay 800-900 pound Brown Bear carcass in about 3 or 4 days.
Been my experience that bears will walk right past bear meat "Roughly" 80% of the time. Even walk right up to it, then walk way.
 

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We left a brown bear carcass about 15' from a barrel that had a regular black bear visiting. 10 days later there was 1 photo of a black bear visiting the bait. My outfitter's experience is that with lower brown bear numbers now than 10 years ago, and several years of education to the dangers of bear baits, other bears are less likely to be attracted to a carcass, and more likely to be made more wary by it. If its blackies you're after now, and there's a brownie carcass there, pull the bait and work your others. If you don't have a bait, or had some really good blacks on this one, move that one a hundred yards or two and reset it.
 

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We left a brown bear carcass about 15' from a barrel that had a regular black bear visiting. 10 days later there was 1 photo of a black bear visiting the bait. My outfitter's experience is that with lower brown bear numbers now than 10 years ago, and several years of education to the dangers of bear baits, other bears are less likely to be attracted to a carcass, and more likely to be made more wary by it. If its blackies you're after now, and there's a brownie carcass there, pull the bait and work your others. If you don't have a bait, or had some really good blacks on this one, move that one a hundred yards or two and reset it.

I got no room to move. To many cabins. I’m Literally sitting on the pin head. So baiting pressure and education for these bears is almost zero. I believe there are two baits within 5 miles other than mine. We had a good run. Next year I may bait elsewhere or just butcher and pack out a grizz if we get one.
 

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I got no room to move. To many cabins. I’m Literally sitting on the pin head. So baiting pressure and education for these bears is almost zero. I believe there are two baits within 5 miles other than mine. We had a good run. Next year I may bait elsewhere or just butcher and pack out a grizz if we get one.
looks like you had a great site, no reason to try starting a new one. I'd opt to hack up and move a brownie carcass next year; its work and a PITA, but what isn't?
 

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Just had a 7' male grizz carcass consumed by what i'm assuming is bears and obviously birds less than 50yd from barrel. Ground all tore up, bones scattered, wish I put a cam on it to confirm. I checked it a week after and nothing touched it and no activity but I put tons of scent out and did several burns than, just checked it now 2 weeks after that and all gone and grizz galore. Killed bear on 6/4, bears back on bait 6/13 according to my cams, so roughly 9 day stretch of no activity. I much prefer to get the carcass out as i've had the same experience as others on here...but i'm 1/4 mile inland from river so really no way to do it unless I loaded my wheeler in my boat or chopped it up which I'd done if I had more time to hunt it than before grizzly season closure but had to get back to work.
 

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I drag mine about 2-300 yards away at a community "bone" station that we set up.. havent had any issues (6 bears down in 3 day trips this year) we actually had bears on the carcass pile just as much as the bait station. Trip 1, black bear left carcass at the bone yard.. trip 2 double left carcasses at bone pile (this was just a few days after bear #1), trip 3 Triple (also just a few days (4) after the black bear double.).
 
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