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wondering if anybody has any tricks when pouring your own lead head jigs in 16&24oz how to get it to fill the cavity all the way so you get a good spike so the grubtail cant slip right off. i can get the heads to come out fine just wondering if you can really preheat the j hook to the point where it might get brittle......

thanks!!!
 

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I cut the lead barb off so the tail will not split. To get the barb to fill when pouring make sure the mold is hot first. Best of luck
 

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Have you tried a drop of super glue to hold the grub on? I am not in as cold a place as you are but it works well here.
 

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Use some Drop Out spray from frankfort Arsenal. It is a miracle product for mold issues.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/76...llet-mold-release-agent-and-lube-6-oz-aerosol
Also pre-warm your hooks. Not super hot but just hot enough you can still put them in with your bare hands at the hottest.
Too bad your in Juneau. If you lived closer to Slodotna I would help you figure this out in my jig making workshop.
 

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toyed around with it last night, wasn't getting it hot enough, ended up making 42 last night, ready for summer!!! anybody know where to find boneyard grubs?
 

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one thing more the lead has a temp that is quite a wide range after it is melted the higher the better, in making weights,
this goes along with the temp of the mold , great going enjoy your fishing SID :proud:
 

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Definitely temperature.......I use a used hook set up and pour one or two to get the mold hot, then once I'm pouring I keep pouring with all the hooks and eyes set up and ready to go and crank em out, gets better the more and faster you pour, But I had the same problem first few times. YOu can also use a butane torch to heat both plates immediatley before your first pour.

So 16 and 24 oz lead heads in Juneau?........I use 8's and some 12's if current is an issue, down to 350-400 feet? You are strong my friend ;) However, if you want to trade some of your 16's for a pair of 8's I'd be amenable as I've got lots and lots of 8's (with the large hook though, modified the mold), and I like to have a few of the big ones on board.

I wouldn't sweat the boneyards....expensive. Between western auto and Freddies or Harri's there is usually someone selling decent tails (storm, Kahlins, berkeley) for less or at 2 bucks a tail. Largely I've gotten tired of donating plastic and I use the big squid tubes from Western Auto. They last a loooong time adn I don't see any catch difference. Rockfish and arrow tooth don't do nearly the damage to the squids.
 

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i run one of the charter boats around town :) i use lighter..... heavier weights fish straight up and down wayyyyyy better
 

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I'd imagine on a charter you are right, but I largely backtroll and jig\drift.......I go as light in lead and rod as I can. Trevala's and Avet's

I'm still up for a trade if you ever need 8's. 2 for one......heck, I'd probably even go three for one as I've got enough 8's for a charter boat myself!
 

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...lead head jigs in 16&24oz how to get it to fill the cavity all the way so you get a good spike so the grubtail cant slip right off....

The key in addition to a hot mold and hot lead is a fast pour. You want one that holds 2# of lead at a minimum and 3# or 4# is better. Pour that mold full and do it fast.
 

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i just recently heard that boneyard was no more, but that they were bought by someone who is hoping to resurrect them.... Some Homer charter guys may know more.

Got similar intel as well. Their site is up but have never purchased anything online from them.
 

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I cut the lead barb off so the tail will not split. To get the barb to fill when pouring make sure the mold is hot first. Best of luck

Concise and to the point, the barbs just cause the tails to split, and the key to getting any mold to properly fill out is to make sure the mold is pre-heated. A quick way to pre-heat a lead head mold is to cast up several lead heads w/o hooks, and once they start filling out, add the hooks and eyes and crank them out.

One trick for keeping the soft bodies from getting torn up when threading the hook through is to heat up a 1/4" dia rod or screwdriver with a torch and melt a hole into the body of the grub or shad.
 

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Got similar intel as well. Their site is up but have never purchased anything online from them.

I found a good deal on Boneyard grubs this last summer from Boneyard on EBAY.
Bought a lot of 100 white grubtails for a decent price.
Well they never shipped them. So after I emailed them they promised to deliver and give me some extra for the trouble.
Long story short EBAY refunded my money.
I honestly don't think they ever sent my stuff.
New ownership might be good but the old owners certainly didn't have their act together.
If a guy could get ahold of those molds I know the people who can make them with their commercial equipment.
But the molds are not cheap and you usually have to run a full day of each color. I know a guy who will do 1/2 day runs per color but it still isn't cheap i'm sure.
I think from now on I'll start trying Kalins grubs. Especially the way Boneyard treated me on that last deal.
btw Didn't they used to be a forum member here?
 

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Chris,

what constitutes a decent price.......if I can ever get a full size grub for less than two bucks I am okay with that, nearer to a buck and I become a hoarder.......what kind of price are you talkin?
 

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Kalins makes a great grub. I have had just as good of results and they are just as tough.
 

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Best I've found yet is Storms thunder grub (super tough)......discontinued now but I got my hands on some new old stock recently and am hoarding like a neckbeard with 22 lr could only dream.
 

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Chris,

what constitutes a decent price.......if I can ever get a full size grub for less than two bucks I am okay with that, nearer to a buck and I become a hoarder.......what kind of price are you talkin?
I think with shipping my price was going to be in the neighborhood of $1.89 each or so for the 12" big bone grub.
But like I said I never did receive them from Boneyard.
I think they retail for $3.50 each or so if you can find them.
 
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