HUNTING Accuracy................What is, "GOOD ENOUGH"

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How tight of a group does your hunting firearm (Pistol or Rifle) need to group to be "Good'Enough".........??? This thread is NOT about target shooting, It is NOT about driving TACKS (a job better done with a Tack Hammer), It is NOT about YOUR "Bla-Bla-Bla" wonder firearm complete with an essay about the trigger, optic, bedding, etc..

This thread asks........only ONE Question, "How tight of a group is GOOD'ENOUGH" that is it. We are talking about Alaska, and we are talking about big game (Maybe to include a wolf). But mostly bigger size Alaska animals.

For me.........I quit at about 1.5 MOA, and proclaim "That is Good Enough". And if the best that a non-optically enhanced firearm will deliver for me (I am NOT a great shot) is 3 MOA ......well that is also good enough for big game out to 250 yards with open sights. Even on a wolf.

So what do you think is "Good Enough" for your needs........????
 

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Kind of a loaded question in sorts. It depends on the distance and what animal to say exactly and it would vary to each. However I think when it boils down to it for myself its about ethics. If I'm sighted in at 100yds and have a 4 MOA then I'd say i would still feel comfortable enough to shoot a moose at that distance but not at 500yds. I try and do the best I can do at the range and put in the range time as much as possible to be proficient. Then knowing how well of a shot I am and how far I've practiced will determine what when and if I shoot.



How tight of a group does your hunting firearm (Pistol or Rifle) need to group to be "Good'Enough".........??? This thread is NOT about target shooting, It is NOT about driving TACKS (a job better done with a Tack Hammer), It is NOT about YOUR "Bla-Bla-Bla" wonder firearm complete with an essay about the trigger, optic, bedding, etc..

This thread asks........only ONE Question, "How tight of a group is GOOD'ENOUGH" that is it. We are talking about Alaska, and we are talking about big game (Maybe to include a wolf). But mostly bigger size Alaska animals.

For me.........I quit at about 1.5 MOA, and proclaim "That is Good Enough". And if the best that a non-optically enhanced firearm will deliver for me (I am NOT a great shot) is 3 MOA ......well that is also good enough for big game out to 250 yards with open sights. Even on a wolf.

So what do you think is "Good Enough" for your needs........????
 

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Up to 2" at 100 yds "good enuf" for my moose/caribou bangers. My shot distance never go beyond that range. Up close and personal is which I prefer. I walk onto moose when I punch thru the brush when checking meadows most of the time there under 100 yds. If not, work my way closer.
 

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HUNTING Accuracy................What is, "GOOD ENOUGH"

If I'm able to hit the spot I'm aiming for, at the distance I'm shooting from, that's good enough.
 

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Can be kind of subjective...but I do believe we get entirely wrapped around the axle on the subject of accuracy (I'm guilty too).

A rifle that'll shoot 3" is good enough for most AK shooting. Lots of talk among the diehard brethren about knocking off critters in the next zip code but I'd wager a lot more are taken under a hundred than over two hundred and a 3MOA rifle is good to at least that far.

I've got a very old Marlin lever gun that shoots 6MOA on a good day and it has killed more deer than most folks will ever see. Of course in TN, most deer were killed in ranges measured in feet rather than yards... I guess you could say it is "good enough", at least for there.
 
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Theres the gun, the ammo and the shooter.

Get all three top notch and you have it lick'd, I had that with my M-39.

Running across open tundra or creeping through triple canopy SE coastal forest is much different than shooting down hill from a mountain ridge, so the variables in environment abound.

Basic Hunting ethics like finishing what you start , no matter how far or long away they get, to getting as close as you can are right up there with riflemanship in overall hunting




Then it boils down to placement, and unless the animal is as till as a target board and your shooting from a bench on the tundra, 4- 5 inches at 200 yards is pretty realistic. Fur is a larger target, theres no meat to save, and straight up the pooper is a "Perfect shot" :D and what happens to the guts dont matter
 

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It's all going to depend on what you're hunting and the distance you shoot.
Personally, given that a 300 Yard shot is considered a reasonably close shot in these parts, and the game animal is often the size of a German Shepard, I opt for the most accurate load I can develop. I don't keep anything that isn't sub MOA.

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I generally sight in before a hunt by placing 3 clay pigeons out at 100 yds. If I can bust them with a single shot to each one, I call it good.
 

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I like a pie plate size group at whatever range you are shooting at.
 

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The Original Post clearly stated "ALASKA" and Alaskan BIG Game. NOT Arizona.

It's all going to depend on what you're hunting and the distance you shoot.
Personally, given that a 300 Yard shot is considered a reasonably close shot in these parts, and the game animal is often the size of a German Shepard, I opt for the most accurate load I can develop. I don't keep anything that isn't sub MOA.

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The Original Post clearly stated "ALASKA" and Alaskan BIG Game. NOT Arizona.
That may be but I'd venture that long shots are even possible in Alaska, even if not as common, and besides I prefer accuracy.

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That may be but I'd venture that long shots are even possible in Alaska, even if not as common, and besides I prefer accuracy.

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Most of the good long-distance shooters I know up here don't talk about it much. And I would be careful trying to make too many generalizations about shooting distances in Alaska. We've got critters bigger than horses and smaller than dogs here, and the terrain / vegetation is more varied than anything you'll find in the southland.

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My standard for my kids is a 9 inch group. Whatever distance they can get a 9 inch group consistently is the max distance for them to shoot at a critter. My standard for myself is a lot different.

Only one gun I have had to reject...wrong scope mounts and could not get it to group well. Fixed it with different mounts.

I don't care what the gun does mounted up and fired in pads...only what it does when I shoot it.
 

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Paper plate at a decent range must be hit with the first cold bore shot. The rest of the group doesn't matter.
 

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A line from everyone's favorite cop, Harry Callahan, "... a man's GOT to know his limitations."

250yds in a pie plate with three rounds with iron sights does it for me.

My dad would not let me leave the range until I had three inside a quarter at 100 yards.
 

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I feel comfortable hunting with a rifle/round that is shooting 1.5" groups at 100 yards. I know a bigger group would work, but since I handload, I can usually dial in a load to 1 1/2" or less so that's my magic number.
 

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If I dont leave the range frustrated then it's good enough. My guide gun for years wouldn't shoot under 2" at a hundred. But I never shot at anything holding still and I'm usually off hand. So being able to shoot s tiny group wasn't as crucial.
My custom .416
Would touch holes off s lead sled. So I would get the best I could outs that gun. Good enough.

So each gun has a different good enough for me. Some are better than others.
 
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