Gear List. Need your Help!

[outdoorsman_3]

What am I missing or do I have too much?

Going on a 10 day DYI Lake Hunt this year in western Alaska. Going with one other person. Our weight limit is 100lbs per person. Here is what we have packed so far. Let me know if I forgot something or if I should pack something additional! This does not include food. Its a long list so I appreciate you taking the time to look through it. I am also hoping that this helps other hunters.

• Cabelas 4 person 4 season expedition tent.
• Bass Pro 0 degree sleeping bag (Partner brings additional bag)
• Mattress Pad (Per person)
• Lightweight cot (Per person)
• Hatchet/saw combo
• Emergency Kit (emergency blanket, tarp, matches, compass, first aid kit)
• 2 Nalgene water bottles (per person)
• 2 Hiking poles (Per person)
• 10x50 Leopold binoculars (1 set per person)
• Spotting Scope with tripod
• 30-06 Remington XCR II w/ Redfield 4-12x50 scope (partner brings additional gun)
• 1 Box of Barnes 180grain bullets (partner brings additional ammo)
• Cabelas Frame Pack (Per person))
• Taurus 44mag handgun (1 box of shells) (partner brings additional handgun)
• Rented Satellite phone w/ extra battery and phone numbers
• 4 tarps
• 1 Coleman stove (uses 1lb propane)
• 3 Lighters
• 2 Water purifiers
• Kitchen kit (bowls, plates, spoon, cup, fork, knife, pots, pans, rag)
• 5 gallon jug
• Dish Soap
• Duck tape (2 rolls)
• Trash bags (10 count)
• 2 camp stools
• 3 knifes (20 disposable blades)
• Hitch Master w/100ft rope (pulley system)
• Small lantern
• Small Mr. Buddy Heater
• Small table
• 2 Small towels (Shared)
• Watch with alarm
• Spare AA batteries
• GPS
• Packable fishing rod/ with spinners
• Kill Kit (Citric acid/ with spray bottle, Game bags, gloves, razor blade, Electricians scissors, stop rot)
• Helly Hanson Rain Jacket (Per person)
• Electrical tape
• Moose call
• 6 pairs of wool socks (Per person)
• 2 pairs Wool base layers (Per person)
• 2 pairs of wool boxer briefs (Per person)
• 2 pairs of pants (1 wool, 1 KUIU Guide pants) (Per person)
• Wool sweater (Per person)
• Fleece vest (Per person)
• Sitka jacket (Per person)
• Sitka Rain pants (Per person)
• Cabelas Hip boots (Per person)
• Leather boots(Per person)
• Winter coat (Per person)
• Winter bibs (Per person)
• Facemask (Per person)
• Neck gaiter (Per person)
• 3 pairs of gloves (Per person)
• Full brim hat (Per person)
• 200ft of 550 paracord
• Bear Fence
• 4 water proof bags for gear/clothing
• Waterproof Camera w/ extra SD card
• Headlamp
• Small plastic sled
• mosquito candles
• Baby wipes/Toilet Paper
• Chap Stick
• Nu-Skin for blisters/ Mole Skin

 

[Brian M]

Gear List. Need your Help!

Where are you at on weight with that list? I see a few things I would drop if weight were a concern. Why the handgun? Especially two of them?? I very rarely carry my 44 mag when I'm hunting with a rifle. Also, with other means to purify water if needed (boiling), I see little reason to double up on the water filters. I personally would also lose two pairs of gloves, the winter bibs (replaced with lightweight puffy pants to wear under raingear), and a couple other possibilities.

 

[Tigerpaw]

What date range will you be there? seems like a lot of heavy clothing, but if you are going late season maybe so

forget the pistols

only one water purifier

I would bring more paracord, that stuff is so useful

Mosquito face nets? Bring 2 per person

Mr buddy heater?? again depends on when and where you are hunting

Kitchen supplies, look at your food list and see if you can eliminate anything

Coffee pot/ supplies?

hip boots vs chest waders brings on a whole new debate, If I went back I would have chest waders

Salt for the capes? I see you have stop rot, look back for a thread that discussed this with lots of great info

 

[hodgeman]

Hunting for what and when? I'm assuming moose in Sept.

You're going heavy, with food you're almost certainly over 100lbs.

I'd dump the winter gear, handgun, sled, multiple knives...share stuff like water filters, duct tape, paracord. Forget mosquito candles, bring a headnet if it's warm enough for a hatch. Jet boil and a spoon takes care of freeze dried food.

Weather will most likely be cool, not cold, and rainy some of the time with a day or two of high wind. Layers are your friend. I'd dump the wool sweater and add a puffy. Wool is impossible to dry in the field.

 

[Brian M]

Lose one roll of duct tape. A single roll is way more than enough.

 

[Daveinthebush]

Lose one roll of duct tape. A single roll is way more than enough.

I usually wrap several loops around my water bottle. Saves space, lighter and I have never used it.
Use high quality tape though.

Why electrical tape. No electronics and duct tape will work for a temp. solution.

 

[akiceman25]

You're definitely on the right path.

I'd lose the coleman stove and propane cylinders. Bring a pocket stove and do most of your cooking over a campfire.
Might consider losing the cots as well.
If you don't have those binocs yet I'd get a lighter pair. I recommend nikon 12x42.

 

[Rainshadow]

Last year I almost stepped on a bear walking out my house, it was eating a mosquito candle (citronella). You did mention a bear fence so I guess you'll be alright LOL

 

[double tap]

So, even being conservative with weights, I'm guessing you are going to be north of 100lb with your current gear list by at least 15-20lb, and I don't see food on the list, so there's at least another 7-8lb.

Consider ditching: cots, handgun, 1/2 box of ammo, a tarp or two unless they are sil-nylon or similar, propane Coleman stove (if you absolutely must have a full stove butane stoves are lighter), a roll of duct tape, Mr. Buddy heater and extra propane bottles, table, wool pants, wool sweater, winter coat and bibs, facemask (replace with a mosquito headnet depending on time of year), and one of two pairs of gloves.

Chris

 

[4merguide]

I very rarely carry my 44 mag when I'm hunting with a rifle.

While hunting yes.....but I sure don't mind having it next to me in the tent at night..... I've never used a bear fence.

 

[ChugiakTinkerer]

Just curious, is a DYI hunt a do yourself in hunt? If so, I have a lot of expertise with these kinds of hunts.


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[ChugiakTinkerer]

Sorry if I missed it but I don't see a gun cleaning kit. Not a fix it kit.

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[akiceman25]

Also appears to be missing the kitchen sink.... LOL!!

In all seriousness. I think he's got a great list. A little fine tuning is in order but all in all I'm impressed... for an out of stater...

Perhaps the OP could post a finalized list for future list help seekers?

Good luck on your hunt! Don't be surprised if you start looking for work here shortly after your arrival back home.

 

[ChugiakTinkerer]

Much easier to post from my desktop. Yeah, that looks a lot like one of my lists. Should my knees buckle when carrying my pack, and I haven’t even loaded in any meat? Depending on the destination a bear fence may be very useful. I put together one a couple years ago but haven't seen enough bear sign anywhere to feel the need to put it up. If I were facing weight restrictions it would be among the first items dropped, but again it depends on the bear population at the destination.

I would try to squeeze in a small kit containing gun cleaning supplies and super glue. Not much you can't fix with super glue, including some lacerations. Also if trying to shave pounds consider a satellite messenger device such as the InReach by Delorme rather than the satellite phone. It limits you to text messages but if paired with a smart phone it is almost like having SMS text messaging. And it has the ability to summon S&R with the push of a button.

For a small lantern you might look into an LED one with a beacon mode that flashes once every few seconds. Mike Strahan recommends this for when you are on foot a ways from camp and may need the help in finding your way home.

I recognize the challenge of trying to reduce your weight. I don't know if I could do it. Definitely start planning and packing early, and make frequent use of an accurate scale. Good luck with the list making and best of luck with the hunt!

Edit to add: Oh yeah, this is my favorite! Not sure if it fits in with light packing, but for a drop camp hunt it's a must in my kit.

 

[outdoorsman_3]

What date range will you be there? seems like a lot of heavy clothing, but if you are going late season maybe so

Going September 15-25.

original idea was to keep a pistol in the tent and have it when we are packing meat as I do not want to carry a long rifle. Thoughts?

Great advice!

Hunting out of Bethel. Talking with individuals who have gone in the past their one complaint was that they were so cold and wet and unable to warm up. One individual brought a buddy heater to dry out the moisture in his tent and said that he would absolutely recommend one.

Bringing starbucks instant coffee to reduce the need for a coffee pot.

I have been debating this myself. I already have the hip boots so I let that make my decision. Still up for debate though.

Good thought. I will add salt for the face areas. Main thing I liked about the stop rot is that I could apply it to some areas and continue to flesh it. My thought is that a moose hide is so big that this may give me extra time to take care of it without the hide going bad.

 

[outdoorsman_3]

Why electrical tape. No electronics and duct tape will work for a temp. solution.

electrical tape is for the tip of the gun barrel.

 

[outdoorsman_3]

Sorry if I missed it but I don't see a gun cleaning kit. Not a fix it kit.

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great. Had that on the list but looks like I forgot it. I plan on bringing remington wipes and a brush with a gun cleaning rod, anything else worth while in a gun cleaning kit?

 

[outdoorsman_3]

Hunting for what and when? I'm assuming moose in Sept.

Yes Moose. Sorry to miss that information. Dates are Sept 15-25

I'd dump the winter gear, handgun, sled, multiple knives...share stuff like water filters, duct tape, paracord. Forget mosquito candles, bring a headnet if it's warm enough for a hatch. Jet boil and a spoon takes care of freeze dried food.

I am flying out of bethel and I can not get the fuel for a jet boil. I only have propane or white fuel for an option. Concerning the winter gear, talking with moose hunters from bethel the one piece of advice that they gave me is to prepare for colder weather than expected. I originally did not have the winter coat and bibs on my list but added it after talking to them. Thoughts?

 

[outdoorsman_3]

You're definitely on the right path.

I'd lose the coleman stove and propane cylinders. Bring a pocket stove and do most of your cooking over a campfire.
Might consider losing the cots as well.
If you don't have those binocs yet I'd get a lighter pair. I recommend nikon 12x42.

The cots are a must talking to the transporter as we most likely are camping in a wet area and water in the floor of the tent is a possibility, I am renting the stove and cots from the outfitter. I have a single burner that attaches to the top of a propane bottle. Maybe I should just use that?

I already own the binos. New optics are not on the expense list. even though a pair of euro binos would be nice

Thanks for the reply and help!

 

[outdoorsman_3]

Thank you for everyone's help! You all are great. Here is an updated list and information.

I have emailed the transporter to confirm weights. I thought he originally told me 100lbs per person for gear and that does not include food, propane, and gun. However, I do not see how a pilot can give you a weight without containing those items. Either you are under weight or over weight. No in between. Also this list is for the the two of us. So if we have 100 weight limit per person. We should be able to bring 200lbs total. I have emailed to confirm in fact that the weight is per person. If not, then I have some serious cutting on my list. Because of these assumptions I was not too worried about weight as 200lbs is a lot of gear! However the more I think about it, the more I want to be sure that I do not have false assumptions. With that said, even if the weights are as is I do not want to have to pay to ship everything up and back if it is not needed. I am going to the second hand store today to buy a bathroom scale so that I can weigh everything! So find an updated list below:

• Cabelas 4 person 4 season expedition tent.
• Bass Pro 0 degree sleeping bag (Partner brings additional bag)
• Mattress Pad (Per person)
• Lightweight cot (Per person)
• Hatchet/saw combo
• Emergency Kit (emergency blanket, tarp, matches, compass, first aid kit)
• 2 Nalgene water bottles (per person)
• 2 Hiking poles (Per person)
• 10x50 Leopold binoculars (1 set per person)
• Spotting Scope with tripod
• 30-06 Remington XCR II w/ Redfield 4-12x50 scope (partner brings additional gun)
• 1 Box of Barnes 180grain bullets (partner brings additional ammo)
• Cabelas Frame Pack (Per person))
• Taurus 44mag handgun (1 box of shells) (partner brings additional handgun) (Cut if weight requires)
• Rented Satellite phone w/ extra battery and phone numbers
• 4 tarps
• 1 Coleman stove (uses 1lb propane) (possibly only use the single burner)
• 3 Lighters
• 1 Water purifiers (removed one)
• Kitchen kit (bowls, plates, spoon, cup, fork, knife, pots, pans, rag)
• 5 gallon jug
• Dish Soap
• Duck tape (1 roll) (Removed one roll)
• Trash bags (10 count)
• 2 camp stools
• 3 knifes (20 disposable blades)
• Hitch Master w/100ft rope (pulley system)
• Small lantern
• Small Mr. Buddy Heater
• Small table
• 2 Small towels (Shared)
• Watch with alarm
• Spare AA batteries
• GPS
• Packable fishing rod/ with spinners
• Kill Kit (Citric acid/ with spray bottle, Game bags, gloves, razor blade, Electricians scissors, stop rot)
• Helly Hanson Rain Jacket (Per person)
• Electrical tape (Small quanity)
• Moose call
• 6 pairs of wool socks (Per person)
• 2 pairs Wool base layers (Per person)
• 2 pairs of wool boxer briefs (Per person)
• 2 pairs of pants (1 wool, 1 KUIU Guide pants) (Per person)
• Wool sweater (Per person) (possibly cut)
• Fleece vest (Per person)
• Sitka jacket (Per person)
• Sitka Rain pants (Per person)
• Cabelas Hip boots (Per person)
• Leather boots(Per person)
• Winter coat (Per person)(possibly replace with puffy coat)
• Winter bibs (Per person)(possibly replace with puffy coat)
• Facemask (Per person)
• Neck gaiter (Per person)
• 3 pairs of gloves (Per person) (POssibly cut a pair)
• Full brim hat (Per person)
• 300ft of 550 paracord
• Bear Fence (Got this in the bargin cave at cabelas for $70-hard to pass up)
• 4 water proof bags for gear/clothing
• Waterproof Camera w/ extra SD card
• Headlamp
• Small plastic sled
• mosquito candles (Removed)
• Baby wipes/Toilet Paper
• Chap Stick
• Nu-Skin for blisters/ Mole Skin
• Salt (Amount?)
• Gun cleaning kit (reminginton wipes, brush, cleaning rod)
• Bug net (per person)

As for food we have one mountain house per day. When we arrive at bethel we will purchase real food to supplement. I am a little worried what Mt House will do to me if thats all I eat for two weeks. After this list is finalized I will post concerning my food list. Maybe that will helpout other hunters in the same situation.