ever wonder who the 22lr scalpers are?

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Just take a drive to Palmer and have a walk thru the gun show. Its now obvious to me who they are..

You can be sure that I will remember thier faces and never purchase anything of any kind from them.

Interesting, did you see anyone buying from them?
 

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Well at least we have confirmation of all the speculation that's been posted here lately. Thanks for the report.


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Yep, I was there for a bit today. Several tables had Rem 525 packs for $60. One guy had a bunch of bricks at $80. I will not buy anything from a table with bricks priced like that.
 

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Yep, I was there for a bit today. Several tables had Rem 525 packs for $60. One guy had a bunch of bricks at $80. I will not buy anything from a table with bricks priced like that.

Agreed.

Question: Will 22 ammo cause constipation when the scalpers have to eat them? :lol:
 

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I bought 2 bricks one a 40 and one at 45 . I am teaching my daughter 12 years old to shoot each weekend, and allotting her 50 rounds per week. Since I can rarely find any I am willing to pay more at this time. She has hunter ed in June and I want her to go into the class confident. It has also been a great time together for the both of us.
She is also starting to shoot her new 30'06 10 rounds a week.
Them cost becomes almost irrelevant because of the time I get to spend with her and she is having so much fun and asking to go shooting.

Before that I was probably shooting a brick a year if that. While I don't enjoy the higher cost it is the situation I find myself in wit thousands of other people cross the country. I can boycott these people that are scalping but I would miss out on opportunity that has greater value to me .

I do think an end is in sight. People are stock piling and many are refusing to pay the high prices so as their personal stash is filled others will have more opportunity.

Economics always wins in the end.
 

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Agreed.

Question: Will 22 ammo cause constipation when the scalpers have to eat them? :lol:

Doubt they will ever lose money. Even when the shelves become full they will have a stock pile of .22's they bought at normal prices. In their eyes they can't lose. Buy low, sell high. If they don't sell then they still have them and they were bought at low prices.
 

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I have more than I need so I put two bricks on my Delta Gun Show table and gave em away to families with young shooters. I received many positive comments from adults that had wanted to buy some.
 

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Guys the fact is there are more than twice the number of shooters out there now than in 2007 but there is no more 22 ammo production capability . . . there are many more folks trying to get their portion of the same pie. There are such a small number of scalpers buying/selling 22 that even if you hang them all by the gonads and shut them down 100% you still won’t have any 22 on the shelf when you get there . . . all would be bought by the shooters and hoarders and you’d have zero opportunity to buy some when you need it at any price! If I needed 22 I’d be glad there are some scalpers out there willing to part with some now.


I refuse to sell any 22 anymore because of all this price animosity going on, I sure don’t want to be branded a scalper by the “occupy 22 ammo street” movement in the effort to redistribute the flow of 22 ammo wealth in a more “fair” way. Yea I have 22, more than I need because I hardly shoot it anymore but I’ll not sell any no way no how in this market. I give some away for kids to shoot but I’ll sit on most of what I have. I’m a dealer and get emails all the time, I could buy a pallet of 22 and lesson the Alaska shortage a tiny bit but I won’t because I couldn’t sell it for Wal-Mart price and would get branded a scalper which would be very bad for my reputable business!


This extra demand of new shooters/hoarders combined with the stone throwing at anyone that doesn’t keep a rock bottom price is the real problem guys! If the retail shop price never goes up then the wholesale price can’t ether.

So tell me;
Who is going to invest millions of dollars into new production facilities for a product that the price is fixed at an artificial low indefinitely by threat of boycott?



How will the availability ever get better with more than twice as many shooters now if nobody will grow the production side?


Are the handful of nasty scalpers selling a couple bricks a month to desperate people the real issue here?


Or is maybe some of the problem a vigilante/union picket line like attitude toward fair market pricing of 22 ammo that stifles investment in new production capasity?
 

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5.56 NATO is today's version of the 22 LR, IMO. Market is flooded and prices are good. Many different style of rifles out there with good prices that are chambered the same.

On a side note, I scored some 22 LR that I found on the range yesterday while shooting. About a handful of rounds. They should clean up nice once I get them out of the tumbler. I'm taking offers.
 

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Just take a drive to Palmer and have a walk thru the gun show. Its now obvious to me who they are..

You can be sure that I will remember thier faces and never purchase anything of any kind from them.

Was thinking about how these guys get their 22 to mark up. Isn't it pretty much exactly the way the methamphetamine makers were/are buying sudafed?

Buy some everyday, make the rounds to all of the stores, change clothes and go back in....

At least they're not making meth, I guess.
 

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Was thinking about how these guys get their 22 to mark up. Isn't it pretty much exactly the way the methamphetamine makers were/are buying sudafed?

Buy some everyday, make the rounds to all of the stores, change clothes and go back in....

At least they're not making meth, I guess.
The difference is that meth cookers are actually manufacturing a value added product (albiet a physically/socially destructive one), whereas these guys are simply scalping.
 

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It's an Emotional thing.

Scalpers P me O.

Especially, since I bought a new 22 Auto Rifle, and a 22 Auto Pistol.

There's a Guh'Jillion ways to look at it, but I reject the notion that Scalpers serve any useful purpose.

I kinda think that the retail stores are not fulfilling their responsibilities to serve ALL their customers equally.

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The only thing I would like to see retailers do differently, is place the .22 ammo on their shelves at random times and days, rather than keeping to the delivery schedule that everyone in town knows. At least give folks on a schedule a shot at stumbling on some once in a while.

I've worked retail, I know there's nothing in it for them, just saying it would make things a little more interesting...
 

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The only thing I would like to see retailers do differently, is place the .22 ammo on their shelves at random times and days, rather than keeping to the delivery schedule that everyone in town knows. At least give folks on a schedule a shot at stumbling on some once in a while.

I've worked retail, I know there's nothing in it for them, just saying it would make things a little more interesting...

They could do a sign-up sheet, like a back-order kind of thing, making sure that everyone interested, got theirs, then start another one after the first sheet was exhausted.

It might take some thought, to get it down fairly, but it should create some good customer relations.

They could also let folks know if they have any "on the water".

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Scalpers and their customers, are sending a message to manufactures and retailers that "customers" are willing to pay much more than current fair market value for the product. I am concerned that once the big box stores current inventory of 22 bullets are depleted, and a more consistent floor traffic of customers is established, the retail price of said item will be greatly increased due to the local market supporting the elevated price of "aftermarket" resale of 22 rim fire bullets.
 

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