2A forum

[Russp17]

Is there anychance we can get the second amendment forum shut down. Everybody has an opinionand nobody is changing what their opinion is. People are using it to attackeach other on what their beliefs are and are saying far out things (both sides).These types of forums are valuable for information you may gain. All this forumdoes is drive a wedge between people who have slightly different interpolationsof the second amendment.

I just don't see how this forum serves anybody...... I for one still have thesame beliefs on the second amendment as when this forum started.

 

[AKBoater]

I agree 100% so far the 2A forum has just added the same drivel from other forums that I joined this forum to avoid.

 

[Bsj425]

There is already a thread and poll on this started by Mike ( the owner) he would like the comments there.

 

[cod]

So I see You posted on the 2A forum. May I ask ...If the 2A forum is heartburn for you, why do you go there? Is it like a car wreck for you and you just cant turn away? Just curious and no offense.

 

[hogfamily]

When I don't like the show I change the channel.

 

[sayak]

"So I see You posted on the 2A forum. May I ask ...If the 2A forum is heartburn for you, why do you go there? Is it like a car wreck for you and you just cant turn away? Just curious and no offense." cod
"When I don't like the show I change the channel." Hogfamily

It's always been like this: "It offends me, shut it down!". Never could understand why people can't just ignore what they don't like. Allowing for various points of view is an American value. Shutting down discussion because you are hurt or offended is not. Just my opinion.

 

[Brian M]

Gentlemen, I've received a LOT of personal correspondence from folks that are concerned about the 2A forum, and not from the folks you might expect. The general tenor of those messages is not one of being offended, but rather about lamenting the effect it is having on the site and the community aspect of the forum. Again, people aren't complaining that they're offended. If simplifying their message in such a way makes it easier for you to defend your opinion on the value of the 2A forum, fine - but that's not the concern that has been shared with me by quite a number of people.

 

[iofthetaiga]

It's always been like this: "It offends me, shut it down!". Never could understand why people can't just ignore what they don't like. Allowing for various points of view is an American value. Shutting down discussion because you are hurt or offended is not. Just my opinion.

Limiting the focus of discussion on a particular web site to a particular spectrum of topics, does not constitute "shutting down discussion". It's a great big internet out there; there are virtually unlimited numbers of websites where a person can go to discuss anything from beanie babies to cannibalism to the KKK. Why should AOD have to host any topic anybody wants? Why not limit the scope of the topics here to the Alaska Outdoors?

 

[HUNTERKJL]

Limiting the focus of discussion on a particular web site to a particular spectrum of topics, does not constitute "shutting down discussion". It's a great big internet out there; there are virtually unlimited numbers of websites where a person can go to discuss anything from beanie babies to cannibalism to the KKK. Why should AOD have to host any topic anybody wants? Why not limit the scope of the topics here to the Alaska Outdoors?

I agree that the forum does not have to host every discussion members want to bring up. From my understanding, AK Outdoor Forums is a privately owned site so the owner/s and moderators can shut down topics or delete posts if they decide to and I have no problem with that. But, the second amendment forum was started by the site and if they shut it down, they will in fact be "shutting down discussion" as you put it. Again, that is their decision and I respect their right to do so. I personally have no complaints or problem with the new 2nd A. forum. I like hearing developing stories/events related to the topic and hearing different points of view. If I dislike a thread, I may read some and then avoid, or jump in depending on whether I feel I have something to contribute. People need to quit being so sensitive, getting feelings hurt, or worrying about disagreements/feuds that develop as they are bound to happen in any discussion. That is my 2 cents worth. As to the future of this forum, that is up to the owners. FWIW, I would rather spend much more time reading and posting on the other firearm forums, reloading, gunsmithing and would like to see participation in those increase. I guess the 2nd amendment forum has just been a magnet lately due to events and change, whether real or perceived in our current times.

 

[MontanaRifleman]

This is meant as no offense to anyone but it amazes me that folks who are upset with the conversation in this forum open it up and read it. Why can't people just ignore it? Is it an irresistible morbid urge that makes you click into it and read it?

I for one do not let internet forums impact my mental health. I can easily transition from the heated debates here, to the shooting forums, to calmly discuss the virtues of long range hunting... LOL

If you don't like the 2nd A forum, well then in the words of Nancy Reagan.... Just say no

 

[tccak71]

Define Alaska Outdoors.....

I'm my definition, I'd include a discussion about 2A issues. If not, then dump all the shooting forums and about 45 other forums (the number of forums is absolutely ridiculous).

This site just seems kinda sterile with its heavy-handed moderation and all the constant whining.

Tim

 

[Marcus]

This site just seems kinda sterile with its heavy-handed moderation and all the constant whining.

Regrettably, I must concur and add ". . heavy-handed, inconsistent moderation . ."

 

[Tearbear]

I think the moderators try to do the best they can here, I'm sure they have better things to do than moderate...if someone doesn't like the way things are run here, it's my opinion that they can go elsewhere.

 

[Amigo Will]

People will alway try to force other to live what they perceive as proper even though they have no intention of sharing the others life. Here we have many pro 2A that hate the 1st.

 

[MontanaRifleman]

I think the moderators try to do the best they can here, I'm sure they have better things to do than moderate...if someone doesn't like the way things are run here, my opinion is that they can go elsewhere.

Plus 1... no need to whine about the moderating. I think it's it's very good overall. I agree, I'm sure these guys have better things to do with their time.

 

[Marcus]

Plus 1... no need to whine about the moderating. I think it's it's very good overall. I agree, I'm sure these guys have better things to do with their time.

My dad used to tell me, "Any job worth doing is worth doing well."


We all got better things to do with our time . . that dog don't hunt . .

 

[MontanaRifleman]

Like I said Marcus... I think they ARE doing their job "WELL"

You just can't please everyone

 

[AlaskaHippie]

The "problem" isn't the 2A forum itself, or the level or perceived level of moderation, it is the reality that once you open the Pandora's Box concerning personal beliefs, be they Political, Religious, etc. it permeates all aspects of the website.

As a community we have a solid commonality. Alaska. There is little doubt, because I have witnessed it firsthand, that almost all of us could share a fire, or a fishing hole, or a moose stand and get along just fine.

Until Politics/Religion is brought up.

It's not a matter of "if you don't like, don't read it", the issue is, if you don't agree with his/her personal beliefs, don't let it cloud your judgement as to that person being a good person who simply has beliefs different than yours. That doesn't happen.

People get worked up, and I'm as guilty as the rest, and categorize folks based on their personal beliefs, and that then bleeds out of the 2A forum and becomes a "grudge" that follows folks around to the Hunting, or Fishing, or Hiking, etc. forums.

 

[Amigo Will]

We must assume the complainers are from Alaska and part of our group.

 

[iofthetaiga]

The "problem" isn't the 2A forum itself, or the level or perceived level of moderation, it is the reality that once you open the Pandora's Box concerning personal beliefs, be they Political, Religious, etc. it permeates all aspects of the website.

As a community we have a solid commonality. Alaska. There is little doubt, because I have witnessed it firsthand, that almost all of us could share a fire, or a fishing hole, or a moose stand and get along just fine.

Until Politics/Religion is brought up.

It's not a matter of "if you don't like, don't read it", the issue is, if you don't agree with his/her personal beliefs, don't let it cloud your judgement as to that person being a good person who simply has beliefs different than yours. That doesn't happen.

People get worked up, and I'm as guilty as the rest, and categorize folks based on their personal beliefs, and that then bleeds out of the 2A forum and becomes a "grudge" that follows folks around to the Hunting, or Fishing, or Hiking, etc. forums.

+1. My political/religious views and those of many/most of my very close personal friends are radically different. We get along just fine however because we respect each others beliefs and perspectives. That respect means we are accepting and don't proselytize, criticize, or otherwise unnecessarily discuss those beliefs. When people feel compelled to proselytize, criticize, or otherwise unnecessarily discuss their political/religious views in spite of forum/community/personal rules/requests that they refrain from doing so, that demonstrates a lack of respect and is not endearing. Lack of respect begets lack of respect and carries over to all other aspects of the relationship.