26' Hewes Alaskan

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Thinkin about a possible upgrade to a 26' Hewes with the new 4 cylinder 200 hp Yamahas; anyone here have one? The motors are new enough that there are no performance bulletins or real fuel numbers for that boat/power package.

Absolutely love my 24' but having a head would be nice for running fishing trips. Anyway would like to jump on a 26' for a ride if someone has one here in Homer, would spring for gas or beer money, doesn't have to have the 200's but would be nice to see how the 26' compares for ride and how much water it draws being a bit heavier boat (I run mine as a water taxi and often do trips into Humpy Creek and other shallow locales)
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Thinkin about a possible upgrade to a 26' Hewes with the new 4 cylinder 200 hp Yamahas; anyone here have one? The motors are new enough that there are no performance bulletins or real fuel numbers for that boat/power package.

Absolutely love my 24' but having a head would be nice for running fishing trips. Anyway would like to jump on a 26' for a ride if someone has one here in Homer, would spring for gas or beer money, doesn't have to have the 200's but would be nice to see how the 26' compares for ride and how much water it draws being a bit heavier boat (I run mine as a water taxi and often do trips into Humpy Creek and other shallow locales)
Thanks-Jim

Talking to a gentleman at the Homer launch ramp. He had a new Toleman 24 or 26 ft and a new 200 Yam... He wasn't too happy, said it was using a lot of oil.
 

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Long ago I learned an important criteria for twins.

Will one alone plane the boat?

I was a long way from home when I lost one of the twins, and the second one simply didn't have enough guts to plane the heavy boat. Running 30 miles at 30 MPH is no big deal. But try it on the return at 8 MPH.
 

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I really like my 26' Alaskan and I have twin 115's. Yeah it's a bit underpowered but it does just fine. Twin 200's would be amazing.
 

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I had what you're talking about, but sold it a couple of months ago. PM me with any specific questions.
 

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I have a 26' alaskan with twin 115's I to would like more power but to be able to plane on one motor begs the question, why do would you need two motors if you can plane on one?
 

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The dealers push twins for one reason, profits. A single with kicker is way more economical all the way around, granted the kicker represents a slow return to port but a return under power is way better then a tow. My kicker ties into my main with a snap on rod, it also charges the batteries and I can use the autopilot. So yes the trip home will be slow but relatively painless. I think of the kicker as a $2000 insurance policy hanging on the transom, way less expensive then having two large outboards that could both be disabled under certain conditions, than what do you do?
 

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Forget the Hewescraft. They belong on lakes IMHO. Buy a 25' Parker or C Hawk and do yourself a favor. You'll get more boat for your money. Put an aluminum pod on the back with single or dual outboards and your set for some heavy weather.
 

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Nope, got 2634 hrs on my Hewes (original motors) and I would never hesitate to buy another.
Aluminum is king here for what we do. With trim tabs my boat will handle weather that keeps the charter fleet in the bay. Is that fun? No it isn't but I have complete faith in its low center of gravity and capability.
They are often under appreciated but I put on 1000 hrs per season and I think I'm fairly qualified to say although they lack flair they are great at what they do. I just need a bit bigger boat with a head but need to get the economy I do now (6-7.7 gph total).
If I was chartering longer offshore fishing trips yeah I'd love a Parker. They are awesome and have seen them handle heavy weather.

As for the twins vs single, I just like the twins. Torque is nice for heavy loads, sounds great when synced, and it's not common to whack something that takes out both motors although you would think that being they are mounted close together, just doesn't happen often at all considering all the tidal places and multiple beach landings 7 days a week thru the summer. As stated, go with twins that will plane the boat on one. No one has mentioned prop pitch and that's crucial to getting the boat on step even with not high hp motors. Everyone should carry spare props and not a bad idea to carry em with higher pitched props.
I have 4 different set of props and each has its place.

Except for the possibility of the new 200 yamaha 2.8 there isn't a 200 hp motor I know of that will touch the economy I get at 22-24 kts.
The boat just plain defies logic when it comes to the economy I get with 19" pitch props. As the season lightens up on heavy loads, will scotch to 21" props. Better cruise mph at same rpm's.
 
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I've had a 18' Arima with twin 50s (powered just right) a 22' Hewescraft with a 115 (way under powered), a 24' Seasport with a 300hp I/O (nice power but I didn't like all the moving parts that come with an I/O) and now we have a 24' Pacific Cruiser with a 300 Yami and a 9.9 kicker on order. I understand the thinking on twins but the major brand outboards are fairly bullet proof and if you're running into rocks then it's pretty likely you will take out both lower units if you are running twins. I know the 300 is the maximum hp for this boat but after having a boat that was under powered I vowed to NEVER do that again. :)
 

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I know the 300 is the maximum hp for this boat but after having a boat that was under powered I vowed to NEVER do that again. :)

Everyone say it together......... I (state your name) will never buy another piece of underpowered equipment again.......

Amen and god bless.

Learned this the hard way mostly with snogo's and trucks but I'm all learned up now, 225 on my 22 ft Raider hardtop, goes great.
 

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Awesome Catch it! Star for the day for you.
Like I said one would think twins about as susceptible to damage as a single but from experience it just isn't typically the case.
Next boat would go max hp hands down.
Tri iron, bet she scoots pretty well! What kind of fuel #'s are ya gettin with what pitch prop?
 

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We ordered the boat last month. Delivery is scheduled for the first week of October on the ferry to Haines. Just purchased a 2007 Dodge 2500 turbo diesel that is the most cherry vehicle I've ever seen...We'll be out doing some late season trips. We'll post the fuel numbers..
 

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Talking to a gentleman at the Homer launch ramp. He had a new Toleman 24 or 26 ft and a new 200 Yam... He wasn't too happy, said it was using a lot of oil.

Could be that the rings have not seated yet. I had a new truck that used 1 qt per 1,000 miles for about 5k miles and then things settled down to normal.
 

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Nice set up! I have a 24' pacific cruiser with that new Yamaha 300 and love it. While breaking it in on a local lake this summer, I hit 55mph GPS speed! I went with the T-25 kicker and couldn't be happier.
 

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Something to consider

Something to consider

Except for the possibility of the new 200 yamaha 2.8 there isn't a 200 hp motor I know of that will touch the economy I get at 22-24 kts.
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If you are looking for similar economy to your Yamaha set-up now stick with the Yamaha. If you are interested in even better economy, more torque and some cool upgrades to the outboard world check out the new Evinrude G2. I have nearly 80 hours on a pair of the new 250HP on a 30 foot aluminum boat. Same for same over the Yamaha 250s on the same hull I see over 15% better fuel economy.

I have used them all and until now I would say pick your favorite color, now Id say its worth a hard look when you can increase your range while keeping that beer fund happy.
 

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Nice set up! I have a 24' pacific cruiser with that new Yamaha 300 and love it. While breaking it in on a local lake this summer, I hit 55mph GPS speed! I went with the T-25 kicker and couldn't be happier.

SM8- That's about what the Yamaha performance specs for this boat and motor had. Probably won't see WOT very often but looks like the sweet spot is at about 3500rpms and 28mph. When it's flat she will fly.......This is the first boat that I've been able to have built exactly the way we wanted. Getting the extended roof (should be sweet for those rainy days of trolling), Wallas, Garmin 1040xs with 18 mile radar, the Garmin 546s for the cockpit, cockpit controls for the trolling motor, custom radar arch with rod holders and canvas for the cockpit. Now we just have to wait for delivery. Hope to get out for some shoulder season duck and deer hunting before we put her to bed for the winter.
 

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The dealers push twins for one reason, profits. A single with kicker is way more economical all the way around, granted the kicker represents a slow return to port but a return under power is way better then a tow. My kicker ties into my main with a snap on rod, it also charges the batteries and I can use the autopilot. So yes the trip home will be slow but relatively painless. I think of the kicker as a $2000 insurance policy hanging on the transom, way less expensive then having two large outboards that could both be disabled under certain conditions, than what do you do?

I run twins for a living. (250 verados)

Twins have several advantages over a single. First being that if one craps out, you are left with a kicker you can really control the boat with. Big deal? Well, blow a main with a 35 gale and you'll know what I'm talking about. Having a 250 as my "kicker" brings me comfort, only because I have blown a main in a 35kt gale, and still made it home. Next, twins spread the strain out. You are working a single much harder than twins work. Most of my buddies who push 24-28ft boats on single 250 report lots of oil burn, beginning at some pretty low hours. They work those engines. The 250's I have on my boat right now have 1480 and 1760 hours. No oil burn in either engine.

A kicker on a single is essential though, just like a booster pack is on a double.
 

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Agreed with 270ti. We see incredible performance gains with twin engines over single applications. Not comparing say twin 115HP to say a single 200 either. Put a pair of 150s on a 28 footer VS a single 300 and several things will happen. With the twin 150s you will see a much better hole shot, and at lower planning RPM and speed, reducing fuel consumption and oil burn. Also torque in the mid range is higher since you have two "wheels" on the ground vs. just one. There fore in that 35knt gale when your down in the trough you may actually be able to punch through or drive to the top of the next wave, with a single you will likely if not certainly be stuck in the bottom with no where to run. Surprisingly we also see higher top speeds even though one would think with extra drag in the water it would slow you down, as 270ti points out though, the engines are not working as hard so a lower RPM equals a lower planning speed with the torque of twins and with the reduced engine work comes lower fuel consumption. We had an instance years ago where we removed a large single from a 28 footer, replaced it with a pair of same brand 150s and actually saw lower fuel consumption than the single to give us.

lot's of good theories out there on this topic. Then there is the difference in hulls and how a single or twins perform on each different brand.... good luck!
 
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