THE_HUNTERIAM
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I wrote an article awhile back on the 10mm. I hear a lot of woodsman like it while others hate it. What are your own personal thoughts on the 10mm? http://ericnestor.com/the-10mm-might-in-a-small-package/
10MM fans? Nay or Yay? Thoughts?
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kodiakcombo
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I’m a fan! I went from a grizzly LAR 50AE to a glock 20, but till that gets some upgrades I now carry a sig Sauer p220 legion in 10mm. <br/><br/><br/>Shoot move communicate!
Doug in Alaska
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I like mine but I usually carry my .454 Ruger Alaskan.
kodiakcombo
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<br/><br/>I carried my grizzly LAR too, it had a reliably package from Karl Sokol, but rarely shot it, I shot my glock a lot, but it started to have light primer strikes, then failure to go all the way into battery. I changed the recoil assembly, put a new striker with spring in and now it still fails to go all the way into battery. Last thing to do is change magazine springs. I am now training myself to the long take up in the sig verses the glock trigger. I put more hits on target with the glock, I’m dry firing to get used of the long take up on the sig. <br/><br/><br/>Shoot move communicate!
Doug in Alaska
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Well that seems very unusual to me. I have six or seven Glocks and have never had a problem with any of them. Hopefully you get it straightened out. I love my Glocks and my wife really likes hers also.
4merguide
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Just so you know, a very respected fellow forum member here is a brown bear guide and carries a colt in 10mm.
kodiakcombo
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<br/><br/>It is a glock I purchased way back in early 2000? Think I finally wore it out<br/><br/><br/>Shoot move communicate!
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Used to be a 10mm guy back in the late 90's and into the early 2,000s. While the Glock pistols are usually dependable I found that not to be the case with the wide selections of bullet weights offered in that caliber. I can certainly appreciate the cartridge but I've since moved on to the .45 Super for a heavier bullet. My pistol holds 15+1 so I didn't lose any capacity and have had no malfunctions with over 2,500 rounds fired in .45 acp/.45 Super..
THE_HUNTERIAM
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Can you use either in the same platform without changing springs, etc?
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Haven't put any significant detailed analysis in, but:
- I prefer a semi-auto platform
- I have a Glock 20 in 10mm
- Not a frequent enough practicer, but what shooting I do, this combo just seems to work for me (various bullet weights, primarily 200gr) without failures.
- Lots of caliber / cartridge options out there and smart folks may do analysis that leads to a different conclusion, but for me, I am perfectly satisfied with the 10mm in a semi-auto platform as my weapon to hide behind in the event of angry 4-legged critters that pop up when I'm doing activities other than hunting those same 4-legged critters.
- I prefer a semi-auto platform
- I have a Glock 20 in 10mm
- Not a frequent enough practicer, but what shooting I do, this combo just seems to work for me (various bullet weights, primarily 200gr) without failures.
- Lots of caliber / cartridge options out there and smart folks may do analysis that leads to a different conclusion, but for me, I am perfectly satisfied with the 10mm in a semi-auto platform as my weapon to hide behind in the event of angry 4-legged critters that pop up when I'm doing activities other than hunting those same 4-legged critters.
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Yes. from 230 ball acp to 255 HC Super. I probably wouldn't feed it a steady diet of thumpers without a spring swap but it runs great as is.
THE_HUNTERIAM
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Impressive! Sounds like my G21 might need some added muscle now...
AK Bearcat
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I have carried and shot Glock G20's in one form or another for over 25 years. My EDC is a Glock G20sf that shoots everything I put through it, from 165 grain practice loads to 180's that are on the warm side to 220 BB hard cast. My Gen 2 G20 has over 3000 rounds through it, my G20sf just over 6000 rounds and my G40MOS just over 500. I have even taken a caribou with the G20sf using 220 grain BB. I know, a little over kill using that heavy a round, but......
Steve8261948
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I know this video is about rifles but, same is true IMHO none the less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkeW2CHEMdo
Nay for me anyway, I'm heavily invested in big revolvers and feal too old to change now.
Steve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkeW2CHEMdo
Nay for me anyway, I'm heavily invested in big revolvers and feal too old to change now.
Steve
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Steve8261948
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I have a question for all who favor the 10mm semi autos n Alaska, how do the semi auto hold up with the freezing temps in your state? Any difficulties with lubricant types, springs ,etc.? Or do you have to baby them to be sure they work? Just curious. Any experiences? If you reload for these, do you use powders that are not temperature sensitive to get the velocities and reliability?
Steve
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There are different levels of freezing up here. I used to live in Eskimo villages south east of Nome. They took their rifles apart and cleaned all the oil out, sometimes using gas to clean everything out. Those actions are completely dry. Then they hang them outside and leave them in -50 temperatures making sure everything works. Not uncommon to walk past a house and see 2-3 rifles hanging outside. Otherwise on the milder side of the temperatures i have never had a problem down to -20 with the guns.
MarineHawk
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I really like the 10mm as a defensive round. I would rather use a long-barreled big bore revolver for hunting big things.
A few years ago, I killed the only animal I have with a 10mm—a buck here in Virginia. I was hunting with my then-13-yr-old son. I had my G40 with 200gr DT HC loads. I was trying to walk a circle around and head back toward my son, hoping to drive some deer in an area where we knew they sometime bed down toward him. But a buck walked up 55 yards away and stopped broadside. We already had agreed that, if I had a good shot on one, and my son didn’t, I would go ahead and take one because it was the last day of the weekend hunt that week, and he wanted to be in on a successful deer hunt even if it wasn’t his. (He got his first deer later in the season).
I didn’t want to risk wounding the deer and it getting away. So, I shot him through both lungs and kept firing until he went down. I put four rounds into him in about 2 seconds before he collapsed. When we later skinned him, we saw that they all were within a 4” circle. Deer was still twitching. So, I put a fifth round into its neck. My son was about 150 yds away out of sight. When I walked back to him, he said: “Daddy, did you get attacked by a bear?”
I had the hard cast loads then because of the presence of fairly large black bears in the area. But the wound channels weren’t that great. So, if I were hunting medium game with the 10mm, I probably would use hollow points or the Lehigh monoliths (which create good wound channels). But I watched a video of a guy put the UW 220gr loads through 10 lined-up 1-gallon water jugs and the bullet kept on going. I know that’s not direct evidence, but I think those loads would penetrate pretty deeply through any animal, just like any HC bullet going north of 1,200 fps. And my own experience told me that I can put a lot of rounds fairly quickly and accurately into anything, at least out to 55 yards. Others surely are better than me with quick follow-up shots the big bore revolvers, but I can make follow-up shots much more quickly with my 10mms than I can with my .454 revolvers. So, I really like the idea of the 10mm as a defensive round—for me.
Note that the Buffalo Bore 220gr is a hair longer than the UW 200gr and 220gr loadings.
My 10mm Glocks with KKM barrels won’t reliably cycle the BB 220gr loads, but reliably will cycle the 200gr and 220gr UW loads and the 200gr DT loads. The Dan Wesson Bruin eats all of them up and spits them out.
My TNW 10mm semi-auto rifle uses the Glock 10mm mags. I kind of like that you can carry a rifle and pistol both using the same mags.
Below are my 10mm chrono results:
A few years ago, I killed the only animal I have with a 10mm—a buck here in Virginia. I was hunting with my then-13-yr-old son. I had my G40 with 200gr DT HC loads. I was trying to walk a circle around and head back toward my son, hoping to drive some deer in an area where we knew they sometime bed down toward him. But a buck walked up 55 yards away and stopped broadside. We already had agreed that, if I had a good shot on one, and my son didn’t, I would go ahead and take one because it was the last day of the weekend hunt that week, and he wanted to be in on a successful deer hunt even if it wasn’t his. (He got his first deer later in the season).
I didn’t want to risk wounding the deer and it getting away. So, I shot him through both lungs and kept firing until he went down. I put four rounds into him in about 2 seconds before he collapsed. When we later skinned him, we saw that they all were within a 4” circle. Deer was still twitching. So, I put a fifth round into its neck. My son was about 150 yds away out of sight. When I walked back to him, he said: “Daddy, did you get attacked by a bear?”
I had the hard cast loads then because of the presence of fairly large black bears in the area. But the wound channels weren’t that great. So, if I were hunting medium game with the 10mm, I probably would use hollow points or the Lehigh monoliths (which create good wound channels). But I watched a video of a guy put the UW 220gr loads through 10 lined-up 1-gallon water jugs and the bullet kept on going. I know that’s not direct evidence, but I think those loads would penetrate pretty deeply through any animal, just like any HC bullet going north of 1,200 fps. And my own experience told me that I can put a lot of rounds fairly quickly and accurately into anything, at least out to 55 yards. Others surely are better than me with quick follow-up shots the big bore revolvers, but I can make follow-up shots much more quickly with my 10mms than I can with my .454 revolvers. So, I really like the idea of the 10mm as a defensive round—for me.
Note that the Buffalo Bore 220gr is a hair longer than the UW 200gr and 220gr loadings.
My 10mm Glocks with KKM barrels won’t reliably cycle the BB 220gr loads, but reliably will cycle the 200gr and 220gr UW loads and the 200gr DT loads. The Dan Wesson Bruin eats all of them up and spits them out.
My TNW 10mm semi-auto rifle uses the Glock 10mm mags. I kind of like that you can carry a rifle and pistol both using the same mags.
Below are my 10mm chrono results:
Redlander
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Unless you are in polar bear country, if it’s freezing cold enough to cause problems with your sidearm, then the bears are hibernating (with extremely, extremely rare exceptions).
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