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  • Winchester 94, OR Marlin 336, in 30-30

    My Fellow Americans:

    Even at my advanced age, there are still a few things left, that I donít have a stubborn and cantankerous opinion on.

    Which 30-30, is BEST, Winchester Mdl 94, or Marlin 336?

    All things considered.

    Scope mounting,
    Accuracy,
    Action Strength,
    Function,
    Reliability,
    Weight,
    LOOKS,
    Tradition,
    or anything else, that would effect your opinion.

    I am blessed, or CURSED with one of each. Iím not gonna advocate for one over the other, myself, but if you have a preference, Iíd like to hear what it is and why.

    Thanks,
    Smitty of the North
    Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
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    You can't out-give God.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    My Fellow Americans:

    Even at my advanced age, there are still a few things left, that I donít have a stubborn and cantankerous opinion on.

    Which 30-30, is BEST, Winchester Mdl 94, or Marlin 336?

    Growing up with a 30-30 model 94 I have a taste for em.



    All things considered.

    Scope mounting,
    Accuracy,
    Action Strength,
    Function,
    Reliability,
    Weight,
    LOOKS,
    Tradition,
    or anything else, that would effect your opinion.

    I am blessed, or CURSED with one of each. Iím not gonna advocate for one over the other, myself, but if you have a preference, Iíd like to hear what it is and why.

    Thanks,
    Smitty of the North
    Here's how I view a 94:

    Lightweight(lightest of the two), and perfectly balanced
    No scope needed and perfectly suited to a lyman peep.
    Reliable....beyond any gun ever made.
    Fast, and wickedly deadly from the offhand firing position
    Real Rifling, not that micro groove crap.

    Hard to turn your nose at the legendary Winchester Logo...........
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    • #3
      Personal preferance....Marlin is a bit heavier as a result of being a stronger gun. 94 has good balance but both are prone to breaking firing pins. All in all, pretty equal if you look at the pre-64 94 but I gotta go with the 336 in 35 Rem...a better round for sure!!
      Somewhere along the way I have lost the ability to act politically correct. If you should find it, please feel free to keep it.

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      • #4
        Owning both too, I'd part with the Winchester before the Marlin. The Marlin has proven lots more accurate from the bench with almost any load, and for me it's also easier to shoot well offhand due to the balance- a little more weight in the barrel is a plus for that. Both mine are mounted with peep sights and both are blazing fast for quick shooting. But when I'm not shooting fast, the Marlin is the clear winner.
        "Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
        Merle Haggard

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        • #5
          happy trails.
          jh

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          • #6
            Winchester wins the classic looks and design, but for me, form and function go to my Marlin. Fast shooting, accurate, never a malfunction and quick to clean and disassemble with one screw. Love my hunting 30-30 and my cowboy .357.

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            • #7
              On every feature the Marlins wins hands down, Now make that a 35rem and the 94 in 30-30 is not even in the running. A 200gr CLRN at 2188fps is ausome and that for a 18.5" barrel a ture 20" can get 2250fps.

              There is a spesial run 336 in SS and in the guide gun configuration with out portting and its really nice for you 30-30win loves. REALY NICE.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mainer_in_ak View Post
                Reliable....beyond any gun ever made.
                Pretty bold statement....
                Originally posted by Lowrider View Post
                94 has good balance but both are prone to breaking firing pins.
                Not according to the above...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hunt_ak View Post
                  Pretty bold statement....

                  Not according to the above...
                  Yip, pretty bold.

                  I remember finding an old 30-30 propped up against the back side of an old barn that came with some land my friend bought. The stock was grey, and every inch of the rifle was rusted. We sprayed it down with WD-40, brushed the bore and it fired every time.

                  No matter how cold it gets, those model 94's always fire.

                  I've routinely dryfired my model 94 for over two decades........no broken firing pin yet.

                  1.3" groups at 100 yds. with a peep sight.
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                  • #10
                    I've replaced a few firing pins in both models over the years. I don't believe one is stronger than the other in that respect. The 336 is much easier to mount a scope on if you are talking about the older 94's. I also have a preference for the 336 in the easier takedown for cleaning, and the smoother, slicker action. The 94 is a Winchester, but the 92 and 86 were smoother actions in the Winchester lineup. Balance seems pretty close to me, but I prefer the longer rifle length barrels over the carbines. I like peeps more than scopes on the older lever guns myself.
                    "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind."

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                    • #11
                      Both great but my hands grew around a Winchester and thatís what I far prefer. I donít think one is any better than the other and after seeing what my crazy uncle has done with his Winchesters and never heart one no way I buy that Marlin is any stronger. I have both too but would trade the Marlin for another Winchester! Things I like the Winchesters for are the elliptical arc of the lever, no bump on the action where my hand goes when packin it, lighter, and just looks and feels better/slicker to me.
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                      • #12
                        Its a blond,redhead thing. I could live out my life with either and feel good about it. I did just pick up a mod.64 in ruff shape and no butt stock,fun project I'm sure
                        Now left only to be a turd in the forrest and the circle will be complete.Use me as I have used you

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Smitty of the North View Post
                          Which 30-30, is BEST, Winchester Mdl 94, or Marlin 336?

                          All things considered.

                          Scope mounting,
                          Accuracy,
                          Action Strength,
                          Function,
                          Reliability,
                          Weight,
                          LOOKS,
                          Tradition,
                          or anything else, that would effect your opinion.
                          IMO, both are great gun designs. Few sporting rifles have the legendary history that these two share. They have proven time and again to be effective workhorse rifles and there is not a lot to choose between them IMO.

                          The 94 AE is as simple to mount a scope upon as the flat top 336 is. Comparing the 336 to the original top eject 94, there's no comparison. The 336 is easy and secure with lots of options and the 94 is an amalgamated mess with a side mount scope.

                          I've owned several 94s and a lone 336 (add a couple of 1895s to the group). Hardly a significant sampling size, but if there is any significant accuracy difference between I think it is as much due to the quirks of the particualr rifle/rifles in question as it is to their design characteristics. I've seen very accurate rifles in both designs. Either design is more than sufficient for hunting accuracy as the past century has demonstrated beyond any doubt.

                          Strength comparisons seem so much wasted talk IMO. With the number of rifles in service I would question the veracity of anyone who suggests that either design is prone to failure due to lack of design strength. Is the 336 stronger than the 94. I've often read that it is, but I've not seen scientific proof that's the case. Perhaps it is, but for my part I've not loaded these rifles to the point of destruction and I've pushed handloads in both designs beyond reasonable limits. I do know for a fact that a 94 chambered in 30/30 Winchester will serve for many thousands of rounds with nary a problem BTDT.

                          As for reliability, I once owned a 1895 SS that would jam most times with a swift pull on the lever. It's the only leveraction that I've experienced with this issue and it was in 45/70. There is probably some naivete on my part, but I consider both designs only slightly less reliable than an anvil if given even a modest amount of care and fed decent ammo. The 94 is a lighter rifle, though I'm uncertain by how much. IMO the 94 is a much "trimmer" rifle and its feel may belie the actual difference in weight between the two. If both rifles are unscoped the 94 with its narrower & slimmer receiver feels like it could have grown in my hand. The 336 is not at all bad, but it is not as svelte as the 94. If you scope them, the handling goes out the window and so does my desire for either rifle.

                          I've not had a real desire for a 30/30 for sometime, but if I do get that desire I believe that the 94 would get the nod. For me it all boils down to the handling characteristics of the two rifles and the 94 is about the best handling rifle I've ever hefted. I've lots of experience with both rifles and I can't say which is "BEST " but I can say that the 94 is preferable to me. Of course YMMV.
                          Foolishness is a moral category, not an intellectual one.

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                          • #14
                            If you're going to put a scope on it, the 336 hands down. If not, flip a coin or buy the cheapest one.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gunbugs View Post
                              The 336 is much easier to mount a scope on if you are talking about the older 94's. I also have a preference for the 336 in the easier takedown for cleaning, and the smoother, slicker action...
                              As someone in 'the biz' and has handled more of these than I ever will, I'm glad to say I've got a 336Y on the way right now. I know, Mainah, its lacking the "W" emblem, but hopefully it'll do

                              I'll keep you posted on our (Alaska_Lanche and I's) builds. Nothing huge, but a few mods for fun...
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