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Well after much research and thought I bought the 416 Ruger! I bought this for a brown bear hunt but also plan to hunt Africa some day. This gun has an excellent feel to it, I love the Hogue stock although I might be in the minority. The iron sights are excellent, the first 10 shots fired at 50 yards were off hand and I was able to keep the group the size of a softball, all hit point of aim with no adjustment. After shooting the rest of that box of ammo with the iron sights and feeling pretty comfortable with them, I put a Leupold VX3 1.5X5 on it. I have since put 40 rounds through it off the bench......not much fun after 5 or 6 rounds, but manageable. For everyone wondering what the recoil is like from this weapon, it can best be compared to a 3 1/2 12GA pump with heavy turkey loads! While this is substantial it is managable, but after 5 or 6 rounds it is hard to keep groups tight as with any bigbore off a sandbag! To combat flinching, a trick I learned years ago is to dry fire a couple of times inbetween groups. The recoil was definately less than I anticipated but still a pain to sight in!
Out of the box you could tell the fit and tolerances were not as tight as a "Browning". I am partial to the Browning A-Bolt but wanted the CRF for dangerous game. Soon after I got it home I put 3 rounds in the magazine and cycled them ......or tried to, the first one wedged in the chamber and never released from the feed rails. I read about this right when these hit the market a year or two ago. People were having this or a similar problem but I was hoping this problem was fixed! To my relief after studying this problem I found that there were some rough burrs on the bottom of the feed rails. I thought this must be the problem. I smoothed them out, and I oiled everything thoroughly tried it again andeverything works well. Extraction was supurb!
At the range I found if when the bullets were put into the magazine if they were pushed all the way forward and if you cycle a round very slowly it will still sometimes wedge a round in the chamber? On the other hand, if you put the rounds in and seat them all the way to the rear of the magazine (less than 1/16") and cycle the gun at "full speed" there are no problems. The action as with most guns is getting smoother every trip to the range. I just bought another 200 rounds of Hornady 400 gr. DGX. Once they have been shot with no issues I will feel "better" about this gun!
Once again I am used to a push feed Browning A-Bolt, which actions are as slick as a pealed onion right out of the box! So the CRF feed guns might just need to be shot several times to smooth everything out so to speak???
As far as groups.....I have shot 2" - 3" groups at 100 yards. This gun is capable of much better. Most groups would have 2 shot touching or almost touching and then 1 would be flyer which I am sure was human error. Or my shoulder saying thats enough!!!!
Overall, I like this gun, it should work great on any bear out to 200 yards, or anything in the world for that matter!!!!
One question I have is, I don't have acsess to a cronograph and am wondering what the factory 400 DGX loads are traveling out of a 20" barrel? I have heard 2200fps - 2375fps. Also, How much will say 100fps affect trajectory within 200 - 300 yards?
All The Best,
Chris
Out of the box you could tell the fit and tolerances were not as tight as a "Browning". I am partial to the Browning A-Bolt but wanted the CRF for dangerous game. Soon after I got it home I put 3 rounds in the magazine and cycled them ......or tried to, the first one wedged in the chamber and never released from the feed rails. I read about this right when these hit the market a year or two ago. People were having this or a similar problem but I was hoping this problem was fixed! To my relief after studying this problem I found that there were some rough burrs on the bottom of the feed rails. I thought this must be the problem. I smoothed them out, and I oiled everything thoroughly tried it again andeverything works well. Extraction was supurb!
At the range I found if when the bullets were put into the magazine if they were pushed all the way forward and if you cycle a round very slowly it will still sometimes wedge a round in the chamber? On the other hand, if you put the rounds in and seat them all the way to the rear of the magazine (less than 1/16") and cycle the gun at "full speed" there are no problems. The action as with most guns is getting smoother every trip to the range. I just bought another 200 rounds of Hornady 400 gr. DGX. Once they have been shot with no issues I will feel "better" about this gun!
Once again I am used to a push feed Browning A-Bolt, which actions are as slick as a pealed onion right out of the box! So the CRF feed guns might just need to be shot several times to smooth everything out so to speak???
As far as groups.....I have shot 2" - 3" groups at 100 yards. This gun is capable of much better. Most groups would have 2 shot touching or almost touching and then 1 would be flyer which I am sure was human error. Or my shoulder saying thats enough!!!!
Overall, I like this gun, it should work great on any bear out to 200 yards, or anything in the world for that matter!!!!
One question I have is, I don't have acsess to a cronograph and am wondering what the factory 400 DGX loads are traveling out of a 20" barrel? I have heard 2200fps - 2375fps. Also, How much will say 100fps affect trajectory within 200 - 300 yards?
All The Best,
Chris
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