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    Ok recently I was told that I was not a gun guy because I did not go look up some ballistics. Ok, I will accept that if those same can tell me what a free floating action is.

    I was set up at a gun show today and the table behind me is talking with a person about a free floating action. What the heck is a free floating action? :confused:

  • #2
    Well Duuuuh; it's an action that floats freely (other than that I don't know).
    If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction.
    Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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    • #3
      Someone either misspoke or doesn't know what they're talking about. There is no such thing as a free-floating action. The action is anchored to the stock.

      However, the term does apply to barrels and basically means that there is enough clearance in the barrel channel (usually $1 bill thickness) that the stock doesn't touch the barrel along its length.
      Now what ?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by stevelyn View Post
        However, the term does apply to barrels and basically means that there is enough clearance in the barrel channel (usually $1 bill thickness) that the stock doesn't touch the barrel along its length.
        Forgive the noobnes of my question, but don't they all do that?
        If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction.
        Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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        • #5
          I believe the Barrett auto loading 50BMG is a free floating action. The action and barrel move back inside the stock when fired, then barrel rebounds. The bolt is trapped at the back till the barrel rebounds, after the barrel is in the forward position the bolt is allowed to close and takes a round into the chamber as it does. Over simplified description here but should give you the idea. I am not sure if the official name is floating action but that is what I have often heard it called.

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          • #6
            I've always thought it was "free-floated" vs bedded" (barrel), and "nonbedded vs bedded" (action).

            Bedding involves application of a viscous compound in the action and/or barrel channel of the stock, refitting the barreled action to the stock, and allowing it to harden...thus creating a snug fitting bed for the action and/or barrel. (It's actually more involved than that, but that's the short version).

            Then you also have a barrel that is neither bedded nor free-floated, but instead has a pressure point at the forend which contacts the barrel.

            Right?

            Doc

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            • #7
              Originally posted by moose-head View Post
              Forgive the noobnes of my question, but don't they all do that?
              No. As Doc states there are rifles that have a pressure point on the barrel at the end of the stock. They free-float for the most part, but the pressure point is there to change the barrel harmonics as it may not have shot as well totally free-floated.

              Also rifles with Mannlicher style stocks are impossible to free-float since the barrel is enclosed in the stock for it's full length and anchored with a metal cap at the muzzle.

              Then there are rifles where both the action and the barrel has been full-length bedded in the stock.

              Noobness forgiven.
              Now what ?

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              • #8
                At one time a number of bench rest shooters did in fact float the action and the barrel was epoxidied into the barrel channel of a fibre glass stock. Obviously it had to be a low recoiling round like 222 or similar. I do not know if it is still popular. J.

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                • #9
                  At one time a number of bench rest shooters did in fact float the action and the barrel was epoxidied into the barrel channel of a fibre glass stock. Obviously it had to be a low recoiling round like 222 or similar. I do not know if it is still popular. J.
                  That is still done. Though usually with the aid of a aluminum block the bottom of which is epoxied to the stock and the top clamps on to it, clamping the barrel between. Many seem to say a lot of bad things about the looks of such setups but they have a reputation for shooting good. I was told that they are not allowed is some bench rest competitions.

                  To me the Idea makes a lot of sense. You get a stiffer barrel for the same weight, and on a front locking action it would let you make the action very very light back of the locking lugs. Seems like the ideal way to make a light weight rifle, especially if it is to be setup with a scout type scope.

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                  • #10
                    ok, I will admit i was screwing with some of the smart arses. I bought a .22 LR that has a free floating action. The barrel is about 1.5" in diameter and is attatched to a break open action and now resembles a falling block. When I bring it home on Sunday afternoon I will post some pictures of it.

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                    • #11
                      here is a picture with the action opened.

                      http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/p...h/DCP_9428.jpg

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                      • #12
                        http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/p...h/DCP_9427.jpg

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                        • #13
                          Never saw one of those before. How is it secured to the stock?
                          Now what ?

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                          • #14
                            the barrel is epoxied to the stock. The guy that built it used to shoot 50 yard bench rest with it. It is a tack driving son of a gun.

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                            • #15
                              I stand corrected.
                              Now what ?

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