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  • 350 rem mag

    Do any of you guys use this round on the big bears? How do they perform? What loads etc.

    Writer Chuck Hawks has kind of taken to this round like Jack Occonor did to the 270. Are they that good?

  • #2
    .350 Rm

    EKC,
    it seems like there's a renewed interest in that caliber. All this short mag stuff and Remington must have thought it better (cheaper?) to dust off that and the 6.5mm RM instead of develop new SAUMs in those calibers. Makes sense to me!

    Patrick (big cheese at Kifaru.net) loves it to. If you go there, he's got a series of articles about "rambling rifles", and kinda goes through a progression from .308 Win. to .350 RM and finally decides his favorite cartridge for his rifle is the .358 Win. Loves 'em all though. Good reason too, they are all very efficient and effective. He also mentions having hunted boar with Craig Boddington in California where that was the Colonel's choice too. Hope I didn't spoil the ending of someone's bedtime story!

    Dave

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    • #3
      350rm

      Though not as popular as the longer 35Whelen, the 350 Remington Magnum has a proven track record on big game. It is highly efficient and can duplicate the performance of the Whelen w/ a shorter barrel due to less needed powder. Phil Shoemaker has written that the largest bear ever taken from his camp was w/ the 350RM. Ed Stevenson is a big fan of this round as well and his opinion is highly regarded in big bear circles.

      I use it (currently have two) and am a big fan of this cartridge. The best mathematical formula that I know of to compare the proven down range performance of the 350RM and the Whelen to other more well known cartridges is "Taylor-KO". The 350RM/35Whelen shooting a 250 grain bullet 2500fps has a Taylor value of 31 which is the same as the 338 Winchester Magnum shooting a 250 grain bullet at 2650fps. The 338WM shoots flatter and has a higher S.D. but inside 200yds this matters little and the 350RM can do it in a short action w/ an 18" - 20" barrel. In addition to a smaller and lighter rifle, it uses less powder and therefore has tolerable recoil.

      My latest Ruger 350RM came out of the box under 7-pounds and has a mag box and chambered long enough to load most 250gr bullets to max velocities. In addition, the mag box holds 4 down.

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      • #4
        350 rem mag

        Thanks for your input Gary. I had a couple of guns sitting on the rack in a local gun shop for sale on comission. Both sold the same week so I had a little fun money burning a hole in my pocket. I was sitting on the fence concerning getting a 77 all weather in 350 mag. You just pushed me over the fense as I just ordered one.

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        • #5
          So far I've only put a 1/2 box of factory ammo through my all weather M77 350. The factory 200 gr ammo doesn't shoot worth didly from my gun. Then I went searching for dies and brass, totally struck out on brass, and the dies I found were overpriced. I'm waiting on a package from Midsouth with brass, dies and some 225 gr Sierras. I'll used either partitions or triple shocks for hunting, but want to dial it in on cheaper ammo.
          Those that are successful in Alaska are those who are flexible, and allow the reality of life in Alaska to shape their dreams, vs. trying to force their dreams on the reality of Alaska.

          If you have a tenuous grasp of reality, Alaska is not for you.

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          • #6
            Ruger 350RM

            Originally posted by Paul H
            So far I've only put a 1/2 box of factory ammo through my all weather M77 350. The factory 200 gr ammo doesn't shoot worth didly from my gun. Then I went searching for dies and brass, totally struck out on brass, and the dies I found were overpriced. I'm waiting on a package from Midsouth with brass, dies and some 225 gr Sierras. I'll used either partitions or triple shocks for hunting, but want to dial it in on cheaper ammo.
            Keep in mind that the Ruger has a 1-12" twist, not 1-16" like Remington.

            If you want to shoot the small bullets, I'd get the Remington. You'll be better served shooting 225-250grain bullets out of the faster twist Ruger. The proper 250grain bullet at approx 2400 - 2500fps would be a good bigger bear load. If you want light bullets, try a longer bullet than the Remington 200 SP-CL.

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            • #7
              GaryVA

              My 350 Rem mag will be my big critter gun. It will be the largest bottle neck cartridge that I have ever owned. I plan to shoot only 250 grain slugs. What loads do you suggest?

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              • #8
                Well after my second session at the range, I really like my Ruger 350 rem mag. First session with factory 200 gr was disapointing, 3-4" 3 shot groups at 100 yds. The trigger is still really heavy (haven't had time to fix it) but I at least had 10 fired cases. Yesterday my package from Midsouth arrived with Redding dies, 100 cases, and a couple boxes of 225 gr Sierras, so it would take alot to keep me from putting lead down range today. Fired cases were sized in the Redding dies, new brass ran through as well to clean up the dings. Cases primed with CCI BR primers (close at hand, I usually use Fed 210's)

                I was a bit miffed to find my can of Varget almost empty, but there was enough to load 12 rounds. I used 57, 58 and 59 gr of Varget under the 225 Sierras, and adjusted the seating dies for a COL of 2.875", and a trio of speer 250's over 57 gr Varget in new brass.

                First group of 57 gr went into 5/8", 58 gr went 1 1/4" (mighta pulled one with the stiff trigger) and 59 gr also printed 5/8". The 250 speers went about 2", but I'm thinking that has to do with the new brass. The cases definately fireform, and I think that's why the factory fodder shoots so poorly.

                Anytime you print sub MOA with your first load, is a good day! Hopefully the 225 partitions and triple shocks shoot as well.
                Those that are successful in Alaska are those who are flexible, and allow the reality of life in Alaska to shape their dreams, vs. trying to force their dreams on the reality of Alaska.

                If you have a tenuous grasp of reality, Alaska is not for you.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the info Paul.

                  I to got tired of waiting so I bought a couple of boxes of the 200 grain factory stuff ($34/box). I think I'll make the 24 mile round trip to Brownells Inc and pick up a Timmney trigger before going to the range. I also picked up a box of 250 grain Partitions and a can of 748. I will play with that combination once I get the factory crap shot up!

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                  • #10
                    I paid $27 for a box of factory fodder, and found another shop that wanted $32, and another that wanted $37. If it doesn't shoot in your gun, don't despair. It seems that at least in my gun, the brass should be fireformed first. The Redding dies are great, and I can't wait to fix the trigger and dial in some loads.
                    Those that are successful in Alaska are those who are flexible, and allow the reality of life in Alaska to shape their dreams, vs. trying to force their dreams on the reality of Alaska.

                    If you have a tenuous grasp of reality, Alaska is not for you.

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                    • #11
                      hey paul I have some 350 I can send you I am not home I live in houston but I travel for my work (goverment) i really dont know when i will get back but if you want then send me a p/m with your address > I bought some reloading stuff they were in there . they are yours if you want them .Allen
                      PS have you tried Ebay great place to pick up dies cheap as well as brass.

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                      • #12
                        350 Rm

                        I have a Rem 600 in 350 Mag that I use 250 Speer Spitzer and IMR 4320 powder.......great little bear gun!
                        Alaska

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                        • #13
                          Remington Model 7 CDL

                          .350 fans have another choice in rifles as Big Green just released the Model 7 CDL. The Remington Custom shop has been offering the M7 KS in 350 for many years but sales were fairly slow due to the price. I purchased my CDL for $605 from Buds Gunshop online. I haven't put any rounds thru it yet, I'm waiting on the Leupold scope. I am putting the 2.5-8 w/ the Boone and Crockett reticle on this little 350. I will use it this fall on my sheep hunts. My hunting partner carries a 338 RUM wizbang boomer, and he really gets fired up over me carrying little carbines on a sheep hunt. I don't shoot very far to begin with, so it should be perfect. I have shot several critters with my Remington 600 in .350 with the 250 grain pills and have had excellent results. I even killed an 1800 pound Angus bull with it back in Iowa about 10 years ago. We have 2200 acres in Southeastern Iowa and we had a bull that went AWOL and decided he was gonna do things his way. This went on for a few years and he turned into a critter to be concerned about during the Whitetail and Turkey seasons. Well he eventually tore hell outta one of our clients trucks and Dad decided he needed to go away. I was back home on leave and the little 350 went with me hoping to go on my first DG hunt. The bull took an initial 220 grain /06 round to the point of his left shoulder with very little effect and then I broke his neck with a 250 grain round.

                          Two thumbs up from this carbine carrying fool...

                          I like my .376 Steyr better tho, killed my first ram with one, but decided against lugging the Prohunter up the mountain ever again.

                          Duster

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                          • #14
                            Want to sell the prohunter?

                            I might be interested in it if you want to sell it...Styer that is.

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                            • #15
                              Steyr

                              The Steyr has earned a place in the safe forever, sorry. My 8 yr old has already staked a claim on this shooter.

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