Murphy just wanted to say thanks for the 358 norma information your load of 74 grains of H4350 with the 250 nosler gave me a five shot average of 2720 fps and shot just under a inch in this 100 degree heat with no signs of high pressure.The good doctor also bought 4 boxes of factory loads with I believe 250 grain swift A frames in them they shoot within an inch of the handloads so he is happy and good to go and I'm out of the darned heat so we are both happy again thanks for the load.Good shooting Ronnie