What a wasted day. Just back from the range with those two new lever guns I got over the summer. Couldn't get either one of them to hit point of aim, no matter what. Not even close. Was going to take one of them hunting next week. Finally, after 3 hours and 50 rounds, I said "stuff it, I'm taking my 243." Guess I'll have to stick to head shots. I'm so far past angry it isn't even funny.
Gun 1: a pre 64 late 1940's WInchester 94 in 30-30. Got this gun back from Andy right before he left state. He replaced some rear sight parts and tapped it in to center. Gun shoots awesome, nice, tight groups...4-5 shots almost touching in a vertical string. Gun shoots exactly under the bullseye and is perfectly centered left to right. Gun shoots FIVE inches low. Five. That's at 50 yards with the elevation maxed out. No more adjustment left.
Gu 2: a 1970 Winchester 94 in 44 Magnum. NIB and never fired until today. (Got it from my uncle.) Gun shoots 2-3" groups just slightly right of center. (No big deal there, can easily be tapped in to center.) Gun shoots NINE inches high. Nine. Also at 50 yards with the elevation depressed all the way to the end. No more adjustment left.
Push it out to 75 yards and fire 5-6 shots each and I still have those targets, completely untouched and still useable.
I was (I am) leaving Saturday, som at this point, all I have left that I can depend on is my 243 match rifle. 3-9 scope I can set it on 3 and just aim for the ears. (It's that accurate.) But that leaves me with only bear spray in camp and on the trail. (Bear spray and a 32 Colt revolver.) Either that or carry TWO rifles and use the 44 for in camp and only on something under 25 yards.
Needless to say, I'm pretty unhappy.
PS: I have this exact same problem on my 357 lever gun as well.
PPS: If rbuck351 sees this, those handloads you advised me on for the 44 are killer. The rifle report is a very distinct and high pitched crack. Easy to pick it out from all the other guns on the range today. Shoulder hurts. LOL.
Gun 1: a pre 64 late 1940's WInchester 94 in 30-30. Got this gun back from Andy right before he left state. He replaced some rear sight parts and tapped it in to center. Gun shoots awesome, nice, tight groups...4-5 shots almost touching in a vertical string. Gun shoots exactly under the bullseye and is perfectly centered left to right. Gun shoots FIVE inches low. Five. That's at 50 yards with the elevation maxed out. No more adjustment left.
Gu 2: a 1970 Winchester 94 in 44 Magnum. NIB and never fired until today. (Got it from my uncle.) Gun shoots 2-3" groups just slightly right of center. (No big deal there, can easily be tapped in to center.) Gun shoots NINE inches high. Nine. Also at 50 yards with the elevation depressed all the way to the end. No more adjustment left.
Push it out to 75 yards and fire 5-6 shots each and I still have those targets, completely untouched and still useable.
I was (I am) leaving Saturday, som at this point, all I have left that I can depend on is my 243 match rifle. 3-9 scope I can set it on 3 and just aim for the ears. (It's that accurate.) But that leaves me with only bear spray in camp and on the trail. (Bear spray and a 32 Colt revolver.) Either that or carry TWO rifles and use the 44 for in camp and only on something under 25 yards.
Needless to say, I'm pretty unhappy.
PS: I have this exact same problem on my 357 lever gun as well.
PPS: If rbuck351 sees this, those handloads you advised me on for the 44 are killer. The rifle report is a very distinct and high pitched crack. Easy to pick it out from all the other guns on the range today. Shoulder hurts. LOL.
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