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  • #46
    Originally posted by Chez View Post
    I would but I cant find published loads that light and I don't want to experiment with a partially filled case that could go boom in the wrong direction or the load that is so light it turns into a squib.
    I take it, that you don't have a chronograph.

    I think that the difference in 454 and 45C is not one primarily of case capacity, but allowed pressure and strength of the guns chambered for them.

    It shouldn't be too difficult to come up with a light load. I would think that a 45C load in a 454 case, would NOT be a Squib.

    I understand your desire for published data. I'll look for such.

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    • #47
      I suggest, do a search for "Light 454 loads.

      Smitty of the North "
      Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
      Has it ever occurred to you, that Nothing ever occurs to God? Adrien Rodgers.
      You can't out-give God.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Smitty of the North View Post
        It shouldn't be too difficult to come up with a light load. I would think that a 45C load in a 454 case, would NOT be a Squib.
        As far as I'm concerned, that Buf Bore 45colt 325 grn @ 1325 load that I shoot sure wouldn't be considered a "squib". When you look at 454 ballistics, I've always thought of it as a "light" 454 round.
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        • #49
          how light of a load you looking for? is there a fps you're aiming to achieve or just a 'perceived' recoil you trying to get? there are plenty of cowboy loads out there but they're for .45C. i would consider that the safest approach to get a light load...buy 100 cases of 45 colt and load 'em up at with published cowboy action loads.
          speaking of cowboy actions loads. i did come across some fun info a while back (long enough that my details may be inaccurate). apparently, for many of the quickdraw competitions they have special cases with larger primer pockets that allow a primer just to drop in with finger pressure. a wax bullet is then pushed in the case and they're off to the races. this is something that you could even practice with in a garage. put up a plywood backstop, pin some balloons to it, and pop 'em with the wax bullet.

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          • #50
            Pick any 45 Colt book load using Unique, 2400, HS6, Herco, Red Dot, 231, Universal, Blue Dot, AA 5, AA9 or other powders in this burn range and you will be fine loading them in 454 cases. SEE only happens with very light loads ( way under min book loads). The difference in case capacity between the 45 Colt and the 454 Casull could cause a small loss in velocity but you could move up to max 45 Colt loads with no issues. Don't download H110/W296. Most fast pistol powders are fine to download but I wouldn't push them much below mininum 45 Colt loads in the 454.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by ak-fang View Post
              how light of a load you looking for? is there a fps you're aiming to achieve or just a 'perceived' recoil you trying to get? there are plenty of cowboy loads out there but they're for .45C. i would consider that the safest approach to get a light load...buy 100 cases of 45 colt and load 'em up at with published cowboy action loads.
              speaking of cowboy actions loads. i did come across some fun info a while back (long enough that my details may be inaccurate). apparently, for many of the quickdraw competitions they have special cases with larger primer pockets that allow a primer just to drop in with finger pressure. a wax bullet is then pushed in the case and they're off to the races. this is something that you could even practice with in a garage. put up a plywood backstop, pin some balloons to it, and pop 'em with the wax bullet.
              I bought the brass and wax bullets from a quick draw website. They actually use a shotgun primer and they just drop in and after just fall out, no press needed like when I tried wax bullets with regular primers. The wax bullets just press in with a finger. I just strung up a heavy moving blanket over a rope for a backstop and then set up a bunch of plastic bottles on a short sawhorse. It is a lot of fun and amazingly accurate as far as I can shoot in my garage which is 32 feet. It is a great winter time plinking session. Just sweep up the little orange wax bullets when done. My buddy bought the ones for a 357 and I guess those can be pretty dangerous because they are pretty powerfull. I've never shot mine outside so can't say how far they will shoot accurately.

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