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  • Why are there no Indoor Shooting Ranges in Anchorage

    I am looking into buying and or building a indoor shooting range. I am trying to figure out why there are not any public ones here in town. How many people would like one? What are the major public concerns?
    Thank you in advance for your help.

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    Regulations = cost, cost and more cost. Finding a suitable building in a suitable location, or purchasing land and building your own. Meeting all the codes, permits, zoning requirements, air handling regulations and insurance and monthly payments. It can be done for sure as others have done it down south and APD has one in Anch. I hope you can do it.

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    • #3
      There is one in palmer. You might want to get a hold of them and find out what is required to run one.
      Some people call it sky busting... I call it optimism
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      • #4
        Iíve looked into it some for out here, the major stumbling blocks I found were insurance and EPA issues. Insurance for anything shooting related is just very pricy. EPA air quality inside and outside of the building looks to be extremely involved to say the least. In Anchorage I suspect you will run into permitting issues when all the loons show up at your permit hearings saying it will be loud, cause congestion, their houses will get shot up, and who knows what all.

        There were a bunch of them around Arizona, even in the little town of Prescott Valley which is the size of Palmer. Most had a gun shop in front and range in back, I miss those places . . . you could go shoot a new model gun before you buy the thing all at the same place. I wish you luck, I think it will make money if the government donít red tape and tax you to death.
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        • #5
          Our cop shop has one and its free but very few us it
          Now left only to be a turd in the forrest and the circle will be complete.Use me as I have used you

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          • #6
            If you could find out someone who knew why the one that was in Anchorage went under that might give you some ideas.

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            • #7
              The Firing Line closed down about 12 years ago. I don't know for sure, but when your daddy sets up a business for you and all you do is pull money from it neglecting even basic repairs or changing the air filters (cause they're expensive, you know) you business tends to go in the toilet. I used to shell out $250 for a yearly membership.

              The Firing Line was in that blue building that's now a car dealership on the Old Seward between Diamond & O'Mally. I don't know if they ever removed the air filter system.

              There's a guy working for V.F. Grace, Rod DeChristforo (spelling might be off) who worked as a manager for the Firing Line. He'd be a good guy to look up.

              I've been to shooting ranges that were in strip malls.

              Beyond that, I thought the NRA had programs to help people set up ranges.

              Good luck to you, I'll buy a membership if you have at least a 25m range.
              I may be slow, but I get where I'm going!

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              • #8
                Here's what I remember about the Anchorage indoor range (South of Dimond Center)

                Originally posted by alaskahugh View Post
                I am looking into buying and or building a indoor shooting range. I am trying to figure out why there are not any public ones here in town. How many people would like one? What are the major public concerns?
                Thank you in advance for your help.
                Originally posted by akraven View Post
                If you could find out someone who knew why the one that was in Anchorage went under that might give you some ideas.
                Allen told me in the last year the indoor range was operating that the insurance cost was killing him.

                He would probably be willing to give you the benefit of his experience if you are really serious.

                Allen H. Choy. Dynamic Properties. Lic# 17718. 3111 C St Ste 100. Anchorage AK 99503-3925. Office: 907-440-9176. Direct: 907-261-7600. Mobile: 907-261-7575

                338-06, I think Rod's name is spelled Christofaro. Only off by one letter if I am right.

                There was a guy named Mike who worked there a lot of hours. I can't remember his last name. Had an Eastern U.S. accent and worked his regular job at McLaughlin Youth Center. Anyone remember his last name?

                I would jump on the chance to shoot at a range closer than Birchwood and more client-friendly than Rabbit Creek.

                Lost Sheep

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                • #9
                  I imagine it's a simple issue of profitability. Taking some wags if you purchase land and build one in Anchorage you'd be looking at $5-10 million, probably closer to 10. Then you need employees, insurance, utilities etc and I'd guess your operating costs would quickly add up to $1million/year. While there are alot of ardent gun nuts in the greater Anchorage area, it's still a fairly small population. Could you get enough paying customers to cover the debt survice on the facility, opperating costs and make a proffit? Odds are there are a hosts of other businesses one could put together for that same amount of money that would be much more profitable.
                  Those that are successful in Alaska are those who are flexible, and allow the reality of life in Alaska to shape their dreams, vs. trying to force their dreams on the reality of Alaska.

                  If you have a tenuous grasp of reality, Alaska is not for you.

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                  • #10
                    I've run the numbers on an Indoor Range in Anchorage more times that I can count. You want me run them by you, just pm me.

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                    • #11
                      Have you looked into the NRA programs? They have a bunch of programs including insurance. Have you thought about setting up as a non-profit? There's a lot more paper work involved, but you might get into an insurance pool. Remember, non-profit doesn't mean you have to pay yourself peanuts.
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                      • #12
                        As I remember there was a fire one of the firemen looked at the grey mud the light went on and it became a haz mat issue. Don't remember if this closed it down but I do know the fireman that said grey mud he talked about all the shredded paper.

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                        • #13
                          Has anyone gathered any updated information on this topic?
                          I've gathered some investors for about $750,000. I figure with membership fees and other sales
                          we could pull in a minimum of $250,000 per year for this first 5 years.
                          I have an idea to cut cost drastically an avoids the air filtration issue legally.
                          I'm interested and any serious feedback.

                          What at would you like to see in an indoor shooting range in anchorage.
                          How much is the most you would pay for a yearly or monthly membership?
                          Pistol and AR short range only, or would you also want rifle. If rifles were not available
                          would you still go to the indoor range.
                          Would you like to see a gun shop at the same location.

                          Im in all ears as I'm planning on making this happen.

                          Thanks,
                          -Thom

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                          • #14
                            I would be interested in hearing how you would get around the Air Quality issue, especially for an indoor range. I was on a team that closed down and remediate 39 indoor ranges in national guard facilities. Any use of leaded or lead content bullets will require a remediation program. I would be careful about shortcuts involving EPA or State environmental laws. Just sayin.
                            All paradise rests in the shadow of swords." ~K. Yates

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                            • #15
                              Range Safe lead free ammo. Less filtration and air movement required, thus allowing less heat lost and frequency of filters being changed, all cutting cost drastically. From a $5M-$10M venture to $750,000 possibility.

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