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    Hello. You guys have a great site. I have a friend who lives on the Kuskokwim river, near Kalskag. Wolves are becoming a concern for her, she does alot of snowmachineing and cross country skiing by her self. She was looking for a .22 LR revolver, but I was able to convince her that she should get something with a bit more stopping power than that. She has little experience shooting, and not a whole lot of money to spend. We looked at guns, she ended up going with a P 95 rugger. I am afraid that anything bigger will be too much recoil, and inaccurate. Any body have experience shooting wolves with a 9mm? JHP of FMJ? I assume the heavier the better. Would 147 grain FMJ be a good choice, or would a +P+ hollow point be better? Where should one aim on the body? Thank you for any input.

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    I would ditch the jhp for fmj, I have seen dogs shot head shot with JHP and live though usually out cold and a bloody mess.

    Where to aim?
    Center mass in an attach situation as always and heart/lung for other situations. If she can shoot it a wolf will be no match for a 9mm up close but the most important thing is that she shoot it often and be proficient with it. Have her work on moving targets too, my wife and I like party balloons on a line blowing in the breeze. I string a close line then dangle 5 or so balloons a couple feet below it, one calls out color to shoot as the other shoots. Itís fun and is the kind of shooting I used to get into hunting coyotes and ferial dogs in Arizona.
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    • #3
      Thanks for the quick reply, I like the suggestion about the balloons, sounds like a fun challenge.

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      • #4
        Although the 9mm should be fine for wolf, I don't really like an automatic for beginners. I think a small to med frame DA revolver in 38/357 would be a better choice. For me, it's easier to train someone to accurately shoot a DA revolver than an auto and malfunction drills are less complicated. Then there's the how to carry an auto. Cocked and locked, hammer down on loaded chamber, or empty chamber. Some autos, like the glock, are simple point and shoot but still have the malfunction thing that a beginner under stress will probably mess up.

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        • #5
          I wouldn't feel undergunned with my 4" bbl 8 shot .22 magnum. Get her a small frame .22 pistol, and she will be just fine. I'm pretty sure there is only one documented wolf kill in US history, so carry ease is just as big of a concern as caliber, IMO.
          "When the time comes for a man to look his Maker in the eye, where better could the meeting be held than in the wilderness?"

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          • #6
            2akin2002:
            I think you shoulda let her get the 22 LR revolver, and told her it needed to have a 5 or 6 inch barrel.

            tailwind:
            Have you ever chronoed the velocity from your 4" barrel in 22 Mag.? I only like 22 Mag. in rifles.

            Thanks,
            Smitty of the North
            Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
            Has it ever occurred to you, that Nothing ever occurs to God? Adrien Rodgers.
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            • #7
              Hello, this is my first post here. I've seen .357 magnum used on wild dogs, and I'd say it was more than enough gun to do the job. Even considering that dogs usually aren't much if compared toe-to-toe with wolves, I'd say 9mm ought to be adequate. I'd suggest using JHP instead of FMJ.

              For people who don't shoot much, I think revolvers make more sense than automatics. They take a lot less practice to operate reflexively, and it's usually easy to find grips even for a small woman's hands. Buying a used double-action .38 special from Ruger or a new one from Charter Arms wouldn't put too big of a dent in someone's bank account.

              Bear spray is also handy, and doesn't cost or weigh much. My wife always has a can when we go hiking. Some mailmen in my area carry pepper spray for dogs, but I don't know what kind.

              Practice lots with your friend, and stay safe...

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              • #8
                22 LR in a revolver. Always carry on a empty chamber and they are great fun and cheap to shoot.

                Cold weather like we have will make any spray unusable.

                Steve
                "I refuse to let the things I can't do stop me from doing the things I can"

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                • #9
                  With out a doubt, I've taken animals heavier than most wolves I've seen with a.22LR. Matter of fact a very nice Black Wolf mount sits in a fellows house that was taken with a 10/22 at about 30 yards. So with that thought go with a revolver in .22 and get good with it. Keeping in mind you are looking for defense and not active pursuit.
                  Quod Dominus Noster Jesus

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Crookedknife View Post
                    Hello, this is my first post here. I've seen .357 magnum used on wild dogs, and I'd say it was more than enough gun to do the job. Even considering that dogs usually aren't much if compared toe-to-toe with wolves, I'd say 9mm ought to be adequate. I'd suggest using JHP instead of FMJ.

                    For people who don't shoot much, I think revolvers make more sense than automatics. They take a lot less practice to operate reflexively, and it's usually easy to find grips even for a small woman's hands. Buying a used double-action .38 special from Ruger or a new one from Charter Arms wouldn't put too big of a dent in someone's bank account.

                    Bear spray is also handy, and doesn't cost or weigh much. My wife always has a can when we go hiking. Some mailmen in my area carry pepper spray for dogs, but I don't know what kind.

                    Practice lots with your friend, and stay safe...
                    Good First Post.

                    Thanks for your contribution.

                    Smitty of the North
                    Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
                    Has it ever occurred to you, that Nothing ever occurs to God? Adrien Rodgers.
                    You can't out-give God.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stid2677 View Post
                      22 LR in a revolver. Always carry on a empty chamber Steve
                      That's a good idea with CERTAIN, older design Single Actions, like the Rugers, that haven't been modified.

                      Smitty of the North
                      Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
                      Has it ever occurred to you, that Nothing ever occurs to God? Adrien Rodgers.
                      You can't out-give God.

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                      • #12
                        Has any of you had a encounter with a wolf that had not been wounded and attacted or aproched after it reconized that you was a human. I have never had dealings with a wolf but thought they would put as much ground between you and them as soon as possible.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 2akin2002 View Post
                          Hello. You guys have a great site. I have a friend who lives on the Kuskokwim river, near Kalskag. Wolves are becoming a concern for her, she does alot of snowmachineing and cross country skiing by her self. She was looking for a .22 LR revolver, but I was able to convince her that she should get something with a bit more stopping power than that. She has little experience shooting, and not a whole lot of money to spend. We looked at guns, she ended up going with a P 95 rugger. I am afraid that anything bigger will be too much recoil, and inaccurate. Any body have experience shooting wolves with a 9mm? JHP of FMJ? I assume the heavier the better. Would 147 grain FMJ be a good choice, or would a +P+ hollow point be better? Where should one aim on the body? Thank you for any input.
                          The Hornady 124 grain XTP JHP would be an excllent choice and will work just fine for the intended purpose

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                          • #14
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                            • #15
                              No way would my first choice be a 22 Mag. I've seen a 22 Mag fail on a Coyote and a wolfe may wiegh as much as 140 pounds

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