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  • Alangaq
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    Like others have stated, I have a mixture of both fixed and adjustable sighted handguns. Most of my defensive handguns are either fixed or with drift adjustable rear sights. Some others like a S&W Regulation Police or Colt Official Police have the old school thin fixed front sight and narrow notch in the frame. With these I simply worked up a load that shoots to POA and called it good. Taking a file to either one would be unthinkable..

    My target handguns like the S&W Model 52, S&W Model 14, Colt OMT, Colt OMM and Sig 1911 Target, all have adjustable sights and I have indeed adjusted them accordingly for the specific loads and ranges they are used.

    I also have a couple of .22lr pistols such as the Ruger SR22 and Ruger MKII that have adjustable sights, but to be honest, I shoot so many different kinds of .22LR ammunition thru them, that I donít even bother to adjust the sights.. as a result, POI versus POA can vary significantly, but usually not so much as to mean the difference between a hit and a miss on a ptarmigan sized critter at reasonable ranges. So essentially they are treated like a fixed sighted handgun..

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  • kodiakcombo
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    Carried a .45 in USMC with fixed sights, when I got out I had National Match with adjustable sights, the sights failed during competition(rear sight fell off) I now carry with fixed sights.

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  • AKBman
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    I just picked up a GP100 with fixed sights and a 3" barrel, it keeps 160gr SWCs or 162gr HPs in the black at 25 yards, the 170s I cast print a bit high, but keeping 5 of them on an 8" square at 60 yards isn't tough at all. The 170gr bullets penetrate a long way, at least to me, I'm used to shooting 310+ grain bullets from my 44 and 454, and the little 357 doesn't lag too far behind, wound channel size, well that is a whole other story. I like the fact that a year from now, with the same bullet and load, I know right where it's going to hit.

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  • AZVince
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    Smitty,

    Very well said sir.


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  • Smitty of the North
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    Originally posted by .338 mag. View Post
    All my semi auto center fire pistols have fixed sights and I am content with them. A derringer and a snub nose revolver also have fixed sights and that's ok for the shooting distances I want them for. My .22, .357 and .44 mag. revolvers have factory adjustable sights that work fine. I don't switch bullet weights on the center fire revolvers. but find the adjustable sights on my .22's to help with what ever round I am using that day.
    I can recognize the utility of Fixed Sights, for some limited purposes. They are surely more rugged/reliable, and maybe less apt to catch clothing, in a Personal Defense situation.

    However, I have 2 handguns with fixed sights, but I would rather they have adjustable sights, and the same has been true with every fixed sight handgun I've ever owned.

    For example, a 22 handgun used for hunting, or survival isn't gonna cut it, for me. I want' a little more precision. That is ALSO the case with 357 or 44 Mag. and the like.

    There are many Defensive Handguns that have ADJUSTABLE sights. I see rather expensive Sight Pushers for adjusting sights on primarily Handguns.

    I've always felt that handguns with FIXED sights were LIMITING, and something of an ECONOMY measure. I'm surprised to discover, that on this thread, at least, such enthusiastic fans of FIXED sights.

    But, I will accept that they have their place for people who might have different or more specialized uses for them, than I do.

    Smitty of the North

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  • .338 mag.
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    All my semi auto center fire pistols have fixed sights and I am content with them. A derringer and a snub nose revolver also have fixed sights and that's ok for the shooting distances I want them for. My .22, .357 and .44 mag. revolvers have factory adjustable sights that work fine. I don't switch bullet weights on the center fire revolvers. but find the adjustable sights on my .22's to help with what ever round I am using that day.

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  • Smitty of the North
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    Well, I asked.

    I didn't the answers I thought I would. Maybe, I've heard too many stories of folks having to twist the barrel to align the front sight.

    Hokay, I guess it all boils down to rugged-nosity, then.

    I shot my 38 with the groove rear sight tonight. I didn't do too bad.

    I like my handguns, but I ain't no expert on'em.

    Thanks All
    Smitty of the North

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  • hodgeman
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    For a gun to protect life and limb, I'll take fixed sight guns every time. One of my favorites is a S&W M65...it hits POA at 15 yds. with full power 158gr ammo. That's perfect for its intent- both the load and the zero. It shoots true regardless of how much beating and banging it endures.

    For a target gun or one for hunting the adjustable sight has a lot of advantage since both target shooting and hunting tends to have a lot of load development type stuff.

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  • AZVince
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    Originally posted by rbuck351 View Post
    I have yet to see a fixed sight gun that I can't fix the sights to where it shoots where I point it. I have a torch and lots of files.
    [emoji106]

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  • rbuck351
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    I have yet to see a fixed sight gun that I can't fix the sights to where it shoots where I point it. I have a torch and lots of files.

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  • BrownBear
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    Originally posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    I would think that many, if not most of us would be using loads that are not like the FLs that the gun was supposedly sighted in for.

    When you HUNTED with handguns, did you use those that had Fixed Sights?

    SOTN
    Yup. Over the years I've killed something north of 30 deer with the 45 Colt launching a 255 grain bullet at 750 fps from a 5" barrel. No shots past 50 yards, but never a need for a second shot. Probably shot a few more with a similar load from a 4" 44 Special. Both are fixed sights.

    If you want to use hotter loads, you can always modify sights to a degree. I just never felt the need after cutting a whole bunch of hair with standard loads. Dead is dead is dead, and right away too. If I want more power I'll grab a bigger case in a different gun. But the adjustable sights on those guns are pretty senseless too. Once I sighted in with my load of preference, I've never touched the adjustment screws again, other than adding a dab of Loktite so they don't go to wandering on me. They may look like "adjustable" sights on my hunting guns, and they once were. But for the last 20-30 years they've been fixed sights. I do all my practicing and all my hunting with the same loads from any gun, so what's the point of an adjustable sight once you're set? A little more trouble if the gun came with fixed sights and you want to shoot something non-standard, but that's why Santa's elves invented different calibers and different guns.

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  • Snyd
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    Originally posted by rbuck351 View Post
    A lot of the older type guns had a very poor groove/notch in the top rear of the frame or even in the hammer. These sights are frequently hard to align rapidly and usually aren't square sided making them harder to align. Not sticking up from the gun makes them difficult for me to align rapidly....
    Ya, I've got an old smith like this. In fact, unless you cock the hammer you cannot see the rear sight. Seem kind of strange for a DA gun.

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  • AZVince
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    Originally posted by Smitty of the North View Post
    You must have a reason for that preference.

    SOTN
    Yes I do.
    For me a handgun is a defensive tool, be it human or animal. In my day to day life I have knocked adjustable sights off the gun. I've had them disappear from the gun due to mechanical breakage. Last, but not least, I tend to use one load power gun and if I change loads I'll deal with fixing the sight then.
    For hunting or target shooting I can see the advantage of adjustable sights but that's not what I'm using a handgun for.
    On my old 38 Special I would, using the B27 Target, hold on the X at 3 Yards, the 9 at 7 Yards, the 8 at 15 Yards, and the 7 at 25 Yards. That put, if I did my part during qualifications, all my rounds in the X.
    My .41 Mag is for defense as it has fixed sights. My .44 Mags have adjustable sights and don't serve in a back up or defensive role. I'll be dialing in a load and adjusting the fixed sight with a file for my defensive load.

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  • AZVince
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    Originally posted by Amigo Will View Post
    I like fixed sights. I also like good files and make the sight work for me
    I concur.

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  • Smitty of the North
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    Originally posted by rbuck351 View Post
    A lot of the older type guns had a very poor groove/notch in the top rear of the frame or even in the hammer. These sights are frequently hard to align rapidly and usually aren't square sided making them harder to align. Not sticking up from the gun makes them difficult for me to align rapidly. That being said, there are some very good fixed sights and semi fixed (slide for windage) that are excellent sights. The fixed and semi fixed are a lot more difficult to knock out of adjustment and once either filed to fit or load adjusted, rarely need anything tweeked forever.
    Sure, but I'm not talking about how "Good" the sights, "sight", but the fact that you can't adjust them.

    SOTN

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