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  • #16
    Soooo, my 44 Mag. with 6" barrel probably gets a bit over 210 fps more than the Alaskan (2.5")

    Smitty of the North
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    • #17
      Guns like the Alaskan fill a small niche in the field as handy/power. SOTN your gun fills many roles and only in a few cases may the Alaskan fill its niche more complette than your gun in the same usage.
      Now left only to be a turd in the forrest and the circle will be complete.Use me as I have used you

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      • #18
        I've owned a Ruger Alaskan for several years now and wouldn't take anything for it. Mine in 44mag shoots just as good as my dad's s&w with a 6" barrel. That being said I bought mine as a defensive hand gun for big critters and to shoot heavy +p loads something you can't do with the Smith or tarus guns the rugers are built heavy and will take it like a champ. I've yet to crono any loads out of mine but I've broken two of the spinning targets that are supposed to handle rifle calibers. Heavy 44 mag loads are near the top of my personal sucker for punishment scale so I'm satisfied with mine. I've yet to be in a situation I've felt under gunned. Maybe the Alaskan isn't for everyone just different strokes for different folks but, mine is accurate and for me very quick handling. Short barrels with properly loaded ammo will deliver the same or close to the same velocity as longer ones in a shortee more compact package nothing wrong with that. Shot placement is still king and mine will deliver 340gr +p+ loads from buffalo bore precisely where I aim them, I see no reason to have a larger caliber or longer barrel.

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        • #19
          I had to ask. The answers are a little disappointing.

          Apparently, I've not dampened the market for River Alaskans.

          Smitty of the North
          Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
          Has it ever occurred to you, that Nothing ever occurs to God? Adrien Rodgers.
          You can't out-give God.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Amigo Will View Post
            In 45colt I found the difference per inch between fifty and sixty FPS. The 340gr. Out of my Alaskan was still 1,280 FPS average in 454.
            Same has been my experience and I love my Alaskan in .454!
            Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

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            • #21
              I don't spose many folks own a Ruger Alaskan, or other Snubby, in BOTH 44 Mag. and 454.

              If somebody does, or has some input, how great is the difference in recoil.

              My impression, at this time, is that 454 is just TOO MUCH, but then I usta feel that way bout 44 Mag.

              AND, a Question.... How many of you 44 Mag. owners/shooters would RATHER have a 454? And for what reason?

              BTW, If a post requires a response from me, and I don't, I ain't mad. Maybe it's cause I'm gone for awhile.

              Thanks
              Smitty of the North
              Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
              Has it ever occurred to you, that Nothing ever occurs to God? Adrien Rodgers.
              You can't out-give God.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by swmn View Post
                Smitty, I agree that the same load chrono'd from 2" and 4" barrels in general will have a higher velocity and a smaller muzzle blast out of the 4" barrel. Lopping 2" off a 26" rifle barrel won't make that much difference, cutting 50% off a 4" barrel will be a big difference.
                In this link there is some data, but it doesn't include the types of loads you all likely are using: http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/44mag.html


                In the most-extreme example, the 240gr Federal .44 Mag. load leaves a 2" barrel at 944fps; a 4" bbl at 1,251fps; and a 5" bbl at 1367fps. You start getting really diminishing returns after 10".

                But, I assume, if you use fast-burning powder, the differences are smaller. I don't reload, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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                • #23
                  SOTN the big hot loads out of my new 3 3/4" BH 44 is nothing compared to much anything in my 454 Alaskan.Both are the same weight but the extra eight grains or so of 296 pushing just 20 grains of more lead make a very big difference. I'm secure enough in my manhood to know for me anyway its time to retire the big big for a lesser big
                  Now left only to be a turd in the forrest and the circle will be complete.Use me as I have used you

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                  • #24
                    Just like rifle reloading you can tailor your powder to get full burn in either a long or short barrel. If a 454 would''ve been in stock I'd have purchased one so I could shoot 45 colt for practice, 44 ammo has been easier to find until recently now the big shortage is over with. The extra weight and power of a 454 maybe more noticable in a longer barrel but in the short barrel of the Alaskan don't thing there'd be all that much difference. Has anyone done a test with a crono to see what real velocity is from our short barrel? I've got a few extra rounds for my 44 if someone has a crono and a 454 around Anchorage I'd be happy to meet up with them and do some tests. Or wait till payday and grab up some more loads to see the results. Maybe a group of us with different barrel lengths shooting the same loads from each gun to see actually results, it's a given a 6" barrel will have more velocity but how much are we actually losing not just educated guesses actually results. Maybe a bunch of old phone books we could do penetration tests on. A couple three hrs we could get a decent grasp on the results, I've got a good camera and halfway competent with a computer to compile the results.

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                    • #25
                      Just like rifle reloading you can tailor your powder to get full burn in either a long or short barrel. If a 454 would''ve been in stock I'd have purchased one so I could shoot 45 colt for practice, 44 ammo has been easier to find until recently now the big shortage is over with. The extra weight and power of a 454 maybe more noticable in a longer barrel but in the short barrel of the Alaskan don't thing there'd be all that much difference. Has anyone done a test with a crono to see what real velocity is from our short barrel? I've got a few extra rounds for my 44 if someone has a crono and a 454 around Anchorage I'd be happy to meet up with them and do some tests. Or wait till payday and grab up some more loads to see the results. Maybe a group of us with different barrel lengths shooting the same loads from each gun to see actually results, it's a given a 6" barrel will have more velocity but how much are we actually losing not just educated guesses actually results. Maybe a bunch of old phone books we could do penetration tests on. A couple three hrs we could get a decent grasp on the results, I've got a good camera and halfway competent with a computer to compile the results.

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                      • #26
                        I had a 3" Mod. 29 for about a year and it was a fun gun for me. I sold it and went back to the 4" version. Long or short I like them all, but since I ain't rich I only have one and it is 4". I think going under 4" is ok for those that want it. I shoot a 4" better and the velocity is better.

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                        • #27
                          Personally, when I first saw the Alaskan, all I could think of was bear defense. Somebody that really only felt they needed a weapon that they could quickly unholster and shove down the throat of the brownie that is on top of them. Other than that I don't see the need for that small barrel. And if I needed one for concealed carry, it sure as heck wouldn't be a 44.....
                          Sheep hunting...... the pain goes away, but the stupidity remains...!!!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Amigo Will View Post
                            SOTN the big hot loads out of my new 3 3/4" BH 44 is nothing compared to much anything in my 454 Alaskan.Btakoth are the same weight but the extra eight grains or so of 296 pushing just 20 grains of more lead make a very big difference. I'm secure enough in my manhood to know for me anyway its time to retire the big big for a lesser big
                            OK, I'm taking that to heart.

                            SOTN
                            Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
                            Has it ever occurred to you, that Nothing ever occurs to God? Adrien Rodgers.
                            You can't out-give God.

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                            • #29
                              I've shot the 454 Alaskan side by side with my 454 toklat and I very much prefer the toklat. I do think that the extra barrel length and a few ounces add just enough to mitigate that nasty 454 barrel flip. Both guns are equally accurate at SHTF distances, but when you get to 25+yds the toklat adds a little more precision. I like it because if I get the chance on a black bear or moose at close range I can take the shot in a hunting scenario. I carry it when hunting just for that chance at a handgun kill. and it makes me feel better when the sun goes down at the Russian.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by winibezold View Post
                                I've shot the 454 Alaskan side by side with my 454 toklat and I very much prefer the toklat. I do think that the extra barrel length and a few ounces add just enough to mitigate that nasty 454 barrel flip. Both guns are equally accurate at SHTF distances, but when you get to 25+yds the toklat adds a little more precision. I like it because if I get the chance on a black bear or moose at close range I can take the shot in a hunting scenario. I carry it when hunting just for that chance at a handgun kill. and it makes me feel better when the sun goes down at the Russian.
                                Thanks, for your perspective.

                                I guess you like 454, since you have TWO of them.

                                Smitty of the North
                                Walk Slow, and Drink a Lotta Water.
                                Has it ever occurred to you, that Nothing ever occurs to God? Adrien Rodgers.
                                You can't out-give God.

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