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  • Mobius
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    Originally posted by Yukon Cornelius View Post
    You guys are making me lean more that way. Here it was, I thought I wanted to sell LOL!
    The versatility is pretty sweet.
    I was planning to build a .300BLK piston, but I found out that the piston versions are not working well. So I put it on hold. Now I've moved on to something else until they work that out.

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  • limon32
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    Originally posted by Yukon Cornelius View Post
    You guys are making me lean more that way. Here it was, I thought I wanted to sell LOL!
    The versatility is pretty sweet.
    Ha ha ha! Check out JSE surplus, they usually have some great deals on a variety of uppers and they ship them usps so it would come straight to your door.

    There are lots of other websites with good deals right now too, but I've used JSE and was really happy with them.

    Please do not tell the misses I provided you the info on the website!


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  • Yukon Cornelius
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    Originally posted by Mobius View Post
    6.5 is based on the .220 Russian, but since that's based on the 7.62X39mm I suppose it's more accurate to say it's based on the 7.62x39mm (aka the AK-47 round). 6.8SPC is based on the .30 Remington. Since the bases are all different, they each need a special bolt (not necessarily the carrier). And the mags are unique also.



    .300 BLK is a shortened and re-necked 5.56 case. OAL is the same as 5.56. Which means the only difference between a 5.56 and a .300 BLK is the barrel. Nothing else changes. Same bolt, same mags, etc. So you really could build a .300 BLK with nothing more than a new barrel. Of course, swapping out would require a vice and a wrench. So most people just get the full upper.

    .300 BLK is roughly the same power as a .30-30 emphasis on roughly. Depends on the bullet and the powder charge. But that's also (to me) a benefit. OH, full disclosure, I haven't got a .300 BLK. I have done a TON of research on building one because I thought I might like it, but I'm holding off for a bit to take care of a few other things. Anyway, you can load super sonic 115gr .308 cal bullets and get 2,400 fps or load 230 gr bullets and get 1,000 fps. Great for moderate game hunting or home defense. It's on my list of maybe some day.

    Oh, and more benefits. If you have .223 cases, you have the makings of a .300BLK case. Just trim to the right length and re-neck it with a die. Makes it easy to find cases that way.
    Originally posted by limon32 View Post
    That's awesome info, really appreciate it!

    That supersonic load looks like a perfect fur load for 0-200 yards!


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    You guys are making me lean more that way. Here it was, I thought I wanted to sell LOL!
    The versatility is pretty sweet.

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  • limon32
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    Originally posted by Mobius View Post
    6.5 is based on the .220 Russian, but since that's based on the 7.62X39mm I suppose it's more accurate to say it's based on the 7.62x39mm (aka the AK-47 round). 6.8SPC is based on the .30 Remington. Since the bases are all different, they each need a special bolt (not necessarily the carrier). And the mags are unique also.



    .300 BLK is a shortened and re-necked 5.56 case. OAL is the same as 5.56. Which means the only difference between a 5.56 and a .300 BLK is the barrel. Nothing else changes. Same bolt, same mags, etc. So you really could build a .300 BLK with nothing more than a new barrel. Of course, swapping out would require a vice and a wrench. So most people just get the full upper.

    .300 BLK is roughly the same power as a .30-30 emphasis on roughly. Depends on the bullet and the powder charge. But that's also (to me) a benefit. OH, full disclosure, I haven't got a .300 BLK. I have done a TON of research on building one because I thought I might like it, but I'm holding off for a bit to take care of a few other things. Anyway, you can load super sonic 115gr .308 cal bullets and get 2,400 fps or load 230 gr bullets and get 1,000 fps. Great for moderate game hunting or home defense. It's on my list of maybe some day.

    Oh, and more benefits. If you have .223 cases, you have the makings of a .300BLK case. Just trim to the right length and re-neck it with a die. Makes it easy to find cases that way.
    That's awesome info, really appreciate it!

    That supersonic load looks like a perfect fur load for 0-200 yards!


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  • Mobius
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    Originally posted by limon32 View Post
    Thanks for pointing out that the 6.5 and 6.8 utilize different parent cases, I was under the impression they used a .223 case.

    I've been thinking about starting to pick up parts for my next build and I really want to maintain parts interchangeability, perhaps I'll build a blackout!

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    6.5 is based on the .220 Russian, but since that's based on the 7.62X39mm I suppose it's more accurate to say it's based on the 7.62x39mm (aka the AK-47 round). 6.8SPC is based on the .30 Remington. Since the bases are all different, they each need a special bolt (not necessarily the carrier). And the mags are unique also.

    Originally posted by Yukon Cornelius View Post
    You'd guys be surprised at the offers I got yesterday on FB for the gun...I simply posted asking a question to determine how soon is to soon to post a for sale ad, I got 5 offers via PM. There is a market, and 4 of the five offers were for more than I thought was fair. It's crazy. I just really don't want to sell it.

    I'm going to go the .300 route simply b/c you don't have to get a new bolt or mags (I think). Unless, I decide to just build another one.
    I do like the trade idea as well. Guns are toys to me. If I'm not using it, I have a hard time justifying it. Just like instruments. Why do I need ten ukuleles? I can only play one at a time.
    .300 BLK is a shortened and re-necked 5.56 case. OAL is the same as 5.56. Which means the only difference between a 5.56 and a .300 BLK is the barrel. Nothing else changes. Same bolt, same mags, etc. So you really could build a .300 BLK with nothing more than a new barrel. Of course, swapping out would require a vice and a wrench. So most people just get the full upper.

    .300 BLK is roughly the same power as a .30-30 emphasis on roughly. Depends on the bullet and the powder charge. But that's also (to me) a benefit. OH, full disclosure, I haven't got a .300 BLK. I have done a TON of research on building one because I thought I might like it, but I'm holding off for a bit to take care of a few other things. Anyway, you can load super sonic 115gr .308 cal bullets and get 2,400 fps or load 230 gr bullets and get 1,000 fps. Great for moderate game hunting or home defense. It's on my list of maybe some day.

    Oh, and more benefits. If you have .223 cases, you have the makings of a .300BLK case. Just trim to the right length and re-neck it with a die. Makes it easy to find cases that way.

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  • Yukon Cornelius
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    You'd guys be surprised at the offers I got yesterday on FB for the gun...I simply posted asking a question to determine how soon is to soon to post a for sale ad, I got 5 offers via PM. There is a market, and 4 of the five offers were for more than I thought was fair. It's crazy. I just really don't want to sell it.

    I'm going to go the .300 route simply b/c you don't have to get a new bolt or mags (I think). Unless, I decide to just build another one.
    I do like the trade idea as well. Guns are toys to me. If I'm not using it, I have a hard time justifying it. Just like instruments. Why do I need ten ukuleles? I can only play one at a time.

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  • limon32
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    Build Multipurpose AR or sell?

    Originally posted by Mobius View Post
    Andy's point is valid. What you price it for may not be worth it right now, unless you just want to get rid of it and take anything they'll offer you. It's not a boat, but you might be better off trading than selling.

    .300blk, 6.5 grendel, 6.8 SPC, etc, etc. All worthy choices honestly. Just fyi, the 6.5 and 6.8 spc are both based on non-5.56 parent cases. So the upper isn't the only thing you have to change. You'll need magazines also. At least with the .300blk you can re-use everything (bolt included) and even the magazines. So basically just swap the upper.

    Anyway, if you don't need the money, don't rush. Take your time, it'll work out.
    Thanks for pointing out that the 6.5 and 6.8 utilize different parent cases, I was under the impression they used a .223 case.

    I've been thinking about starting to pick up parts for my next build and I really want to maintain parts interchangeability, perhaps I'll build a blackout!

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  • Mobius
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    Originally posted by Yukon Cornelius View Post
    I haven't even decided in a price yet. I've been checking gunbroker and my set up is going for $1k. Without the extras. I was thinking of selling it for less. It is fun to shoot. I'm going to check these other options out. I won't be ready to do anything with it, until feb when I know about next year. I don't need the money. Just have my eyes on some other stuff. Boat fund. Etc.
    Andy's point is valid. What you price it for may not be worth it right now, unless you just want to get rid of it and take anything they'll offer you. It's not a boat, but you might be better off trading than selling.

    .300blk, 6.5 grendel, 6.8 SPC, etc, etc. All worthy choices honestly. Just fyi, the 6.5 and 6.8 spc are both based on non-5.56 parent cases. So the upper isn't the only thing you have to change. You'll need magazines also. At least with the .300blk you can re-use everything (bolt included) and even the magazines. So basically just swap the upper.

    Anyway, if you don't need the money, don't rush. Take your time, it'll work out.

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  • ADfields
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    Originally posted by Yukon Cornelius View Post
    I haven't even decided in a price yet. I've been checking gunbroker and my set up is going for $1k. Without the extras. I was thinking of selling it for less. It is fun to shoot. I'm going to check these other options out. I won't be ready to do anything with it, until feb when I know about next year. I don't need the money. Just have my eyes on some other stuff. Boat fund. Etc.
    Don't confuse asking price for value. I just did a search on Gunbroker for Rock River Arms AR and got 4 pages, of those only 3 auctions had any bids, 2 of those were under $500 and the other ($1700) was a 458 SCOM package with a bunch of stuff. I can get RRA brand new complete 223s starting at $399 wholesale right now. I get ten emails every day from venders begging me to buy some ARs for super cheap, the AR market is in the toilet right now like never before. You may get a premium for it for cash out in a village from someone that doesn't see what the market is doing . . . but remember you still got to live there.

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  • FL2AK-Old Town
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    My thoughts on the AR15 aside, if yo do sell it, sell it in the village. You'll get more cash for it. (Less supply = higher price....to a point.)

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  • Yukon Cornelius
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    Originally posted by Mobius View Post
    Not that I'm advocating for a specific caliber, but if your alternate is to sell, don't. Well, that's my opinion anyway. The AR market is so saturated now that you're bound to lose money. If it were me, I'd probably go for the .300 BLK route mainly for the novelty and the idea of a sub sonic round AND the option to run super sonic with a lighter round. But that's just me.
    I haven't even decided in a price yet. I've been checking gunbroker and my set up is going for $1k. Without the extras. I was thinking of selling it for less. It is fun to shoot. I'm going to check these other options out. I won't be ready to do anything with it, until feb when I know about next year. I don't need the money. Just have my eyes on some other stuff. Boat fund. Etc.

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  • ADfields
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    Yea don't sell right now, this is the buying market for AR stuff. I like the 300 Blackout myself, it's a 30-30 league round or sub-sonic thumper depending on your loadings.

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  • Mobius
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    Not that I'm advocating for a specific caliber, but if your alternate is to sell, don't. Well, that's my opinion anyway. The AR market is so saturated now that you're bound to lose money. If it were me, I'd probably go for the .300 BLK route mainly for the novelty and the idea of a sub sonic round AND the option to run super sonic with a lighter round. But that's just me.

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  • Lowrider
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    Can't find a better round for the AR than the 6.5 Grendel if you want to shoot beyond 300 yds. Otherwise the 6.8 SPC does a fine job too. With a 1in 9" twist .223 barrel, mid range round like the 6.5 or 6.8 and the SOCOM or Beowulf for short range heavy work you pretty well have it all covered. One lower and 3 uppers and a reloader and you're set... oh yeah...feed the kids too!

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  • limon32
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    Originally posted by Yukon Cornelius View Post
    Your advocacy for the 6.8 is sort of my inspiration. I came across an article about the 6.5 as well.
    If I remain in the village, reloading will become a must.
    6.8 SPc component offerings geared toward ARs are getting more numerous all the time!


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