NPFMC Tell the Halibut Charters to Bend Over and Take it Again!
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NPFMC Tell the Halibut Charters to Bend Over and Take it Again!
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ALASKAN SEA-DUCTION
1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
MMSI# 338131469
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Not quite, but close! The best educated estimate (guess) is that area 3A may have gone over the harvest allocation for guided anglers. As we all know, charter crew harvest of halibut was not allowed! Until all harvest of halibut by guided anglers is required to be weighed when off loaded we only have a estimate (guess) of what is harvested.
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Well Commercial fishermen get 82 percent! Maybe that should be cut back to 65% or more since their plan is to drive out the charters...sigpic
ALASKAN SEA-DUCTION
1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
MMSI# 338131469
Blog: http://alaskanseaduction.blogspot.com/
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Until an equitable solution for the trawl bycatch dilemma is achieved, longline, recreational, and guided fisheries will suffer. The pollock fishery has a very, very powerful lobby. It's doubtful things are going to change any time soon.
It is sad to see Alaskans taking pot shots at other Alaskans every time this subject comes up. Lots of bickering and few answers. With the number of folks on this board who are educated in fisheries management, biology, and politics, it would be interesting to see a civil, factual conversation about how to deal with trawl bycatch.
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Originally posted by AKBassking View PostWell Commercial fishermen get 82 percent! Maybe that should be cut back to 65% or more since their plan is to drive out the charters...
We need to stabilize the stock and once that is done then all fishermen can enjoy the rebound.
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AKBassking, Don't be so quick to hate. Have you ever not been able to catch a halibut because the long liners get 85% of the catch? Don't confuse the long liners with the draggers. Someone correct me if im wrong but I believe the long liners quota is figured after the draggers by catch.
Originally posted by AKBassking View PostWell Commercial fishermen get 82 percent! Maybe that should be cut back to 65% or more since their plan is to drive out the charters...
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I strongly agree with gb. But right now the comm fishery is in control of this situation and it is all about them and to hell with everyone else. I once, not so long ago had a comm fish tell me that their goal is to take down the charters to where they all go out of business and then people will be forced to buy their fish only from them. This attitude seems to common among the comm fish folks. I'm not a hater, the comm fish are doing that job all by themselves. Comm fish believe THEY own the resource.
Alaska became a State due in part to the Washington/Oregon control on fish in Alaska.sigpic
ALASKAN SEA-DUCTION
1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
MMSI# 338131469
Blog: http://alaskanseaduction.blogspot.com/
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You are a hater. Its pretty obvious in your post. So you spoke to one commercial fisherman so we all must think the same. Its people like you that will always drive a wedge because you want all the fish. You wont be happy until you get every last one. Draggers are a monster of their own and every one will get the short end of the stick until people like you get off your high horse.
Originally posted by AKBassking View PostI strongly agree with gb. But right now the comm fishery is in control of this situation and it is all about them and to hell with everyone else. I once, not so long ago had a comm fish tell me that their goal is to take down the charters to where they all go out of business and then people will be forced to buy their fish only from them. This attitude seems to common among the comm fish folks. I'm not a hater, the comm fish are doing that job all by themselves. Comm fish believe THEY own the resource.
Alaska became a State due in part to the Washington/Oregon control on fish in Alaska.
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Originally posted by MGH55 View PostNot quite, but close! The best educated estimate (guess) is that area 3A may have gone over the harvest allocation for guided anglers.
3A charter harvest estimates for 2014 are 2,173,374 lbs. Limits were 1,760,000 lbs. So harvests are estimated to be 123% of allowable limits.
Harvest estimates are based on log books, dock sampling, harvest surveys, interviews, and scientific models that are evaluated and peer reviewed to provide accuracy, precision, and 95% confidence intervals. They are certainly good enough for management purposes.
http://www.npfmc.org/wp-content/PDFd...imates2014.pdf
If you have something more accurate, please post it.
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Originally posted by AKBassking View PostWell Commercial fishermen get 82 percent! Maybe that should be cut back to 65% or more since their plan is to drive out the charters...
As AKJOB already pointed out, your 82% figure is not representative of area 2C and 3A where these charter cuts happened. The commercial fishermen do not get 82% of the catch in these areas. I think you are including all areas for commerical, most where charters don't fish. Besides, what's wrong with the commercial fishery getting 82%?...they are the commercial fishery after all.
You must not realize that not long ago the commercial fishery had all of the charter allocation - there was no charter industry. So it is the charter industry that has come along and taken allocation from the commercial guys. Not only taken their allocation, but made them absorb gross charter overharvests.
I think long-liners would like to co-exist with charters. But that can't happen as long as charters keep exceeding their limits, and taking their allocation.
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Originally posted by kodiak kid View PostSomeone correct me if im wrong but I believe the long liners quota is figured after the draggers by catch.
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Originally posted by AKBassking View PostBut right now the comm fishery is in control of this situation and it is all about them and to hell with everyone else. I once, not so long ago had a comm fish tell me that their goal is to take down the charters to where they all go out of business and then people will be forced to buy their fish only from them. This attitude seems to common among the comm fish folks. I'm not a hater, the comm fish are doing that job all by themselves. Comm fish believe THEY own the resource.
I think if you put your emotion aside for a moment, and look at the facts, you'll be enlightened. Craig Medred likes to play on your type of divisive emotion. Lets not give him the satisfaction.
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Originally posted by AKBassking View PostI strongly agree with gb. But right now the comm fishery is in control of this situation and it is all about them and to hell with everyone else. I once, not so long ago had a comm fish tell me that their goal is to take down the charters to where they all go out of business and then people will be forced to buy their fish only from them. This attitude seems to common among the comm fish folks.
Originally posted by AKBassking View PostComm fish believe THEY own the resource.
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