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    I just built 2 UHMW toboggans from old stock I had in the garage. If folks are interested I will have one of my more technologically advanced teenagers help me download some pictures as I also just got my new Canon digital camera and was able to take pictures of the building process.
    I have been talking with some guys at work here in FAI. If enough people are interested, I will look into a bulk buy of UHMW that is UV resistant. UHMW is sold by the pound on special orders, which translates to roughly 10 4'X10'X 1/4" sheets at a minimum.
    This won't be cheap, but will be cheaper than what you can buy in state on a piece by piece basis. If enough interest is generated I will make some calls so we have a better idea what the costs might be as well as the time to get it here.

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    Alaska Airboat in Wasilla has some scraps of UHMW that would work great on sno go trailers

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    • #3
      UHMW Polyethylene

      Garland Manufacturing in Maine extrudes UHMW for runners, and also makes boards and bars, rods and some tubes. There is a little half-round profile that they sell that I use as a bump guard running all the way around the edge of the boat.

      http://www.garlandmfg.com

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      • #4
        Hey River Rat,

        Im interested. Been down to the local sled shop and after some gasping at the prices, Id like to look elsewhere. Keep me updated.

        byrd
        I'm going to ctrl-alt-delete you so hard your mama's computer is going to reboot.

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        • #5
          uhmw

          I might be interested in getting a sheet or two to hold on to if the price was right. Since it is made out of oil and needs oil to get it shipped up here and the price of oil only looks like it is going to go up, well you get the picture. It is really amazing tough stuff.

          thanks

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          • #6
            same thinking

            I still have 2 sheets of virgin white left over from the old days when I used to make sleds. No idea how bad the sun got to them. But am thinking too with the price of oil for manufacture and transportation, it won't do anything but get more pricey.
            Poly Hi Solidur makes good product and they have several dealers in WA state. I would look here in AK, but I already know that I will get a heck of a deal on transportation from Tacoma. Kind of like no cost at all. So if an AK outlet wants to go in with us, and we use their buying contact, great. But if I am going to place a $3,000 odd order, I am going to be tough on the price.
            And you guys are right. We expect sticker shock on vehicles, but on sleds? Hooboy! Now that scared me last time I walked into a shop and saw what they wanted.
            Let's all stay in touch to see where it goes from here.

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            • #7
              Pictures would be great! One of these days I'm going to get rid of my aluminum tub sled and build a UHMW one.

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              • #8
                picts coming

                I'll have my daughter help me out. We might be able to get pictures on the ODD Wed evening.
                I started researching price and availability on UHMW. UV resistant color UHMW takes 3 weeks from order date to arrive in SEA. Another 2 weeks here give or take. If I get it out of SEA I will have it come to FAI. I can not guarantee shipping back to ANC, at least not at a discount.
                The order will require roughly 6 units/people or up to about 14. Material will come 1/4"x4'x10'. The tongue will be 1/2". I will precut tongues based on best material usage. Right now I am planning on Orange if available. Why? First off is safety, second is that one of the guys can get it from SEA to FAI for next to nothing and the guy loves orange. If interested in material, do you want to be choosy or save money?
                Keep checking in if interested in material or PM me.

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                • #9
                  money

                  As far as color is concerned I don't really care. Orange sounds good, I like the high visibility aspect. My vote is go for the most economical.

                  You might hit up the power boaters too, they might jump at the chance to armor the bottom of their river boats.
                  I'm going to ctrl-alt-delete you so hard your mama's computer is going to reboot.

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                  • #10
                    RR, I'd be interested in participating. Depending on the price, I might want enough material to build two sleds.

                    Orange would be awesome two. But if price drives the bus on cost, I could really careless in the long run what the color is.



                    Ken

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                    • #11
                      a little help

                      Does anybody have connections in the transportation industry, i.e. trucking, that can get UHMW from Fairbanks to Anchorage and/or the bowl? My connection can help get material from SEA to FAI, but let's plan on somebody else working on shipping from FAI to ANC. I will also double check with him to be sure we do not cause issues by ordering to many pieces for his contacts to handle.
                      I will spend the next couple of days talking to different suppliers and manufacturers to determine what options are available just to ensure we are making good choices and to give everybody choices if possible. I did get some info today, but need to talk to a couple more sources still.
                      The easiest way to bend UHMW is in a hydraulic brake. I have a couple of options in FAI, and we may save money by having more than one sled bent at a time. Folks in ANC might want to do the same thing. Yes, a little more effort, but another opportunity to cut cost.
                      I will see if I can get photos attached shortly.

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                      • #12
                        For the price of gas

                        I could take a safe load down on my trailer if everyone pitched in to buy my gas. I don't have a huge truck and trailer but I could get about 1500 lbs of the stuff down to Anch if there was someone who could "store" it till it was picked up. Im sure there is someone out there that could haul a lot more weight than me that could up the total amount hauled down to Anchortown.
                        I'm going to ctrl-alt-delete you so hard your mama's computer is going to reboot.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by byrd_hntr View Post
                          I could take a safe load down on my trailer if everyone pitched in to buy my gas. I don't have a huge truck and trailer but I could get about 1500 lbs of the stuff down to Anch if there was someone who could "store" it till it was picked up. Im sure there is someone out there that could haul a lot more weight than me that could up the total amount hauled down to Anchortown.
                          Depending when we're talking about, I could meet you on the Talkeetna Spur Road / Parks and forward it down to ANC with my trailer. Actually, time frame doesn't really matter, because I'm going up a couple of times a week to work on my cabin anyway.

                          Bet we could make it like the serum run to distribute it.

                          RR pre bent would be great.

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                          • #14
                            UHMW Poly

                            I bought a bunch of UHMW runners from Garland Manufacturing in Maine. They have something like 250+ different UHMW shapes to work with. Shipping is kind of a pain, but UPS Ground is OK if it's less than 108" long.

                            http://www.garlandmfg.com

                            Their standard is a safety/caution yellow color for the UHMW, but they also have a black UHMW that is resistant to UV, which is kind of nice.

                            I'd ask them to machine it/cut it there, since it tends to eat most non-carbide tools.

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                            • #15
                              How To Build A Sled

                              Hardware:
                              Bolts for bends (2ea 1/4" thickness)= 5/16"x1", washers both sides, nyloc nuts.
                              I make 3 bends per side at 1 1/2" apart. Tough to make them closer with a big hydraulic brake, but you can make them further apart easy. Each bend needs to be more then 30 degrees as they relax. When you leave the machine shop, the sides should be pointing in somewhat, or after they relax they will point out.


                              Height of front/side. Note, 3 cuts @4" bent to 2" lap gives a front end height about the same as the sides. For deeper powder make 4 cuts and/or lap 2 1/4" to 2 1/2". As long as you keep the laps to 2 thicknesses, hardware length is 1".


                              Rope handle, knotted inside and outside, gives you something to grab all the time. I like my corner handles on the outside of the sled.

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