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    Iím finally thinking Iím gonna move on starting studying my ground school
    And stepping towards my ppl. With long term plans.

    What I need is someone whose up on this stuff that I can just fire off an occasional text to with questions on processes, proceeding, direction so to speak. Kinda what do I need to do next, which direction should I head etc. just someone to help guide me forward and answer my dumb ignorant questions.
    Looking at kings ground school study material, is taking my ground all I need before getting a cfi and starting flight training? Can I log away time with cfi that counts before my ground school? How many hours do I need to operate as a part 91? Why are some cubs 80k and another 180k, whatís an annual cost, where do I look for insurance, blah blah. Typical newbie questions.
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    I can't answer all of your questions, but as to ground school before flying, you can start flying right away. You need to pass your FAA written exam and have a valid medical certificate before soloing, but you can start logging hours with an instructor as soon as you'd like. You might as well get going on the ground school/self study, though, as once you start flying you should fly as often as possible. It's best to fly multiple times a week during the process so as to stay sharp/learn quickly. If you do so, you'll be flying solo in no time.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BRWNBR View Post
      Iím finally thinking Iím gonna move on starting studying my ground school
      And stepping towards my ppl. With long term plans.

      What I need is someone whose up on this stuff that I can just fire off an occasional text to with questions on processes, proceeding, direction so to speak. Kinda what do I need to do next, which direction should I head etc. just someone to help guide me forward and answer my dumb ignorant questions.
      Looking at kings ground school study material, is taking my ground all I need before getting a cfi and starting flight training? Can I log away time with cfi that counts before my ground school? How many hours do I need to operate as a part 91? Why are some cubs 80k and another 180k, whatís an annual cost, where do I look for insurance, blah blah. Typical newbie questions.
      King Schools is the best in my opinion. Donít kill yourself trying to get 100% on the written. Pass the thing and ride on.

      You need 40 hours to take the private check ride. I donít remember how much is dual and how much is solo. Been way too long. Get set up for your medical exam, make sure to quietly search out any disqualifying health conditions you might have or medications you might take before the physical. Once the official physical starts everything goes on record.

      $80K will get you a Cub in decent shape if youíre patient. $180K will get you a real fresh one. No rhyme nor reason for why they are so expensive other than cult following. Do your homework and consider experimental if youíre not planning to do commercial work with it down the road. Best advice there is donít get a case of AIDS...Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome. [emoji1]

      Good luck with your endeavor. It is lots of fun.

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      • #4
        The King course is boring, and patched together, BUT it is geared specifically towards the written test. Also go find a copy of the latest ACS, for private. ( Airman Certification Standards) The FAR --AIM will give you info on the hour requirements and so on...
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        • #5
          So...
          Ground school written+Medical+Cfi 40 hours+Check ride = PPL?
          The plan is to fly for my business maybe, but more to have a back up plan for work when my hips go out or RHAK gets all their wishes granted and I no longer have a job.

          Iíve eyeballed a lot of options for a plane, 170b/sportsmanís/Bushwheels/big prop/ or a scout, or a....but dang. Nothing does what a cub does
          Of course a 15k champ sipping car gas is kinda attractive for what it is as well. A log book with wings.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BRWNBR View Post
            So...
            Ground school written+Medical+Cfi 40 hours+Check ride = PPL?.
            Yep, basically. 20 hours dual, 20 hours solo along with some specific details regarding cross-country and night flight time.

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            • #7
              Is there specific places to get your medical done? Iím assuming itís not like my medical for my cell?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BRWNBR View Post
                Is there specific places to get your medical done? Iím assuming itís not like my medical for my cell?
                You will need a Flight Doctor, get the flight physical first. Without a medical any money spent will just be wasted. The type of flying I believe you are interested in is ADVANCED level operation and will require a great amount of both money and time.
                "I refuse to let the things I can't do stop me from doing the things I can"

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                • #9
                  Looking for a mentor

                  Originally posted by BRWNBR View Post
                  Is there specific places to get your medical done? Iím assuming itís not like my medical for my cell?
                  Yeah, only certain doctorís offices perform the flight physicals. Itís really simple - just a drug test, blood pressure, eyesight and such. I recently used Aviation Medical Services out by Anchorage International and they were good, but any place that does FAA physicals should be fine.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stid2677 View Post
                    ...... will require a great amount of both money and time.
                    If it was cheap and quick thereíd be no need for more pilots. I hear it all the time lots of money, bad way to make a living, Risky investment. Crud. Thatís what Iíve been doing for the last 20 years. I donít live in Alaska to work a 9-5. I live here because
                    Itís special, with special opportunities for people who are willing to go get them. Itís all a risk and it all takes an investment. Maybe it wonít work out. Maybe I canít pull it off but Iíd kick myself for not at least trying.
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                    • #11
                      The place down by the Airport is a good outfit for medicals in the Anchorage area. It is nice to have folks who are pretty much devoted to aviation medicine. Thus they have a desire to plug you into the system so they have you as a repeat customer. The local guy here who can do FAA physicals could care less if you pass and does not seem to like airplanes.

                      I used to go see an old guy up in Kenai, so he had no idea about any of my local Doctor visits. But he is darn near 100 now and finally retired. So I will have to fly up to Lake Hood strip for my next medical and buy somebody here on this site a nice lunch to pick me up.

                      Do not get caught up in buying the perfect bush plane as your first aircraft. I know lots of folks, and have had many students, who stalled out on their training because they over-spent on their aircraft and could not afford to fly it enough..... OR... because they were not the best tail-wheel pilots and they stalled out on their training after they scared the crap out of themselves. ( or me) or damaged their plane....

                      There is nothing wrong with finding an old $30,000 C-172 and flying the crap out of it. You can actually get someplace since they are pretty fast, they are easy to work on, and keep flying, they have room inside, and the old straight tail 172s can land and take off a lot shorter than many people think with a good pilot. A 172 will make it into ANY village strip in Alaska and lots of beaches.
                      PLUS::::: The insurance on an old 172 is very cheap. Nosewheel + Lots of parts available keep the premiums down.

                      One of my students ( who is now a commercial hauler) started with an old Square Tail 172 with fairly big tires and nose fork. He flew all over the state in that thing. When we would go clam digging across the inlet or go down to Kodiak, I would take off in my PA-11 Cub about 15 minutes ahead of him and he would soon pass me like I was tied to a log. I was doing 70-80 mph and he was going 110-115. A couple hour flight later, he would be done digging clams and was still waiting for me to show up.
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                      • #12
                        I appreciate that info on buying a plane. Thatís obviously a huge question. Iíve seen a few chiefs for 15k with a lot of life left in them and 170bís that would fit another person AND fuel that have interested me. But the gas sipping time builders is very appealing as Iíd actually be able to keep it in the air and thus keep writing in my log book.
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                        • #13
                          Jake,
                          Aviation is addicting. I bought a Cessna 150 last October to complete my license (still in the process). Very cheap and economical. King Schools worked for me, just passed my written two weeks ago with an 87. If your out in the Valley, hit me up. Plane is tied down at Wolf Lake. Iíd rent the plane to you for a cheap price if you can find an instructor. Let me know.

                          Jason
                          "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir

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                          • #14
                            Don't do it. Next thing you know you will be buying Kuiu gear. Oh wait that already happened. There is no one right way to go about attaining your license. Once you start get it done. There is no cheap way to get your license. Once you get your license then the real expenses start. AV gas is the cheapest insurance and best modification for any pilot. The forum is a good place to ask questions. The answers can be useful. I too am at Wolf Lake and can help with any questions if needed. For commercial purposes getting your commercial ticket is required too and commercial insurance. In your line of work though can help allot and make a big difference.

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                            • #15
                              Brown Bear. Just a word of advice for you. To save you time and money try looking at getting your ppl in Arizona. I got mine there about 20 years ago. It cost me $3,000 back then and I completed my 40 hours, ground school, written test, oral test, and flight test all within 3 weeks. The company I used was called Sheble's Aviation in Bullhead City Arizona/Nevada. Once you get your ppl, then come back up here and get some tail wheel training from a cfi in Anchorage. I got mine from Anchorage and I think it took me about 10 hours of flying to get my tailwheel endorsement. I only have about 170 hours and I quit flying about 16 years ago. It got too expensive for me after I got married and started having kids. It's a lot of fun though. There are very few past times I enjoy as much as hunting and fishing. But flying is one of them. Expensive hobby though.

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