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  • Doug in Alaska
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    Originally posted by chugachjed View Post
    Idaho seems nice.
    I agree, I'd look at Idaho property.

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  • cdubbin
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    Originally posted by stillapa12drvr View Post
    First NRick's summary nailed it. Simple as that.

    Second, I've got a theory from having friends in the "mountain west": If the goal is to be away from people, given that many places in Alaska are off the road system, there's lots of plane travel or overflights to even the most "remote" spots in AK....however, FWIW, I think if one finds a very remote place in, say, eastern Washington, SW Colorado, certain parts of Montana, central Idaho, etc., even though one is on the "road system", one will be much more remote and away from people than in Alaska.

    Just opinion, but combining what the OP wants, the information posted by NRick, and the good questions posed by others, the OP might be better served by looking at places in the West than in AK.
    The west is pretty crammed these days....hundreds of thousands of hunters every fall, concentrated on limited public land. There's very few places in any of those states where you can get more than several miles from a road in one direction or another....if real solitude is desired, I'd look at the northern half of Canada...

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  • stillapa12drvr
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    First NRick's summary nailed it. Simple as that.

    Second, I've got a theory from having friends in the "mountain west": If the goal is to be away from people, given that many places in Alaska are off the road system, there's lots of plane travel or overflights to even the most "remote" spots in AK....however, FWIW, I think if one finds a very remote place in, say, eastern Washington, SW Colorado, certain parts of Montana, central Idaho, etc., even though one is on the "road system", one will be much more remote and away from people than in Alaska.

    Just opinion, but combining what the OP wants, the information posted by NRick, and the good questions posed by others, the OP might be better served by looking at places in the West than in AK.

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  • SmokeRoss
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    Alaska is littered with broken dreams and the half finished shells of log cabins.

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  • bluehammer
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    I’m a little late in responding, but may I ask what your history is with Alaska? How much time have you spent here, and what areas have you visited? What seasons?

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  • Chez
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    sorry to pop your bubble but we're all filled up, no more room for anyone,

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  • gbflyer
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    Did the same nearly 30 years ago. Not rustic remote but very rural. I can only wish you luck as no one would have changed my mind either. The only thing I learned for sure and certain is that I traded one set of problems for another set of problems. Would I do it over differently? Yes I would.

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  • kasilofchrisn
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    Originally posted by NRick View Post
    You're looking for the mythical Alaska that does not exist. What does "...but I won't need employment..." mean? You have some money saved up, and steady income like a pension or disability, or independently wealthy? The farther out you go the cheaper the land (generally but not always) and the fewer people. But the more expensive it is to get yourself, building materials, and supplies back and forth. How's your health? Alaska is one of the most expensive places in the world for heath care. Have you built anything before? A log cabin from scratch is not an easy endeavor. The state is littered with abandoned cabin building efforts. If you intend to do this you'll want to be looking mostly south of the Alaska Range or southeast Alaska where trees are big enough to be used as cabin logs. Alaska has been in a years long recession with no end in sight. I doubt many "Californians" are going to be moving here and destroying the place any time soon. You should plan a visit and spend a few weeks checking different areas out before committing to moving here. And, as is repeated hundreds of times, keep enough money on hand to move back in case it isn't all you thought it would be.
    Well said! There are Alaskans who are already here looking for just such a utopia with cash available. Remote properties can be hard to finance. Banks want insurance and insurance companies want you in a fire service area. Financing it can be done I'm sure but it isn't going to be easy. But if your going in with $500,000+ cash available it's much easier. Also do you need a garden or will you buy all of your food? Alaskan gardening is fun but challenging at the same time. I've been learning it the last several years and it's nothing like gardening when I was growing up in the Midwest. Much tougher here!
    Last edited by kasilofchrisn; 02-17-2021, 17:07.

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  • chugachjed
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    Idaho seems nice.

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  • iofthetaiga
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    Originally posted by NRick View Post

    You're looking for the mythical Alaska that does not exist.

    What does "...but I won't need employment..." mean? You have some money saved up, and steady income like a pension or disability, or independently wealthy? The farther out you go the cheaper the land (generally but not always) and the fewer people. But the more expensive it is to get yourself, building materials, and supplies back and forth. How's your health? Alaska is one of the most expensive places in the world for heath care.

    Have you built anything before? A log cabin from scratch is not an easy endeavor. The state is littered with abandoned cabin building efforts. If you intend to do this you'll want to be looking mostly south of the Alaska Range or southeast Alaska where trees are big enough to be used as cabin logs.

    Alaska has been in a years long recession with no end in sight. I doubt many "Californians" are going to be moving here and destroying the place any time soon.

    You should plan a visit and spend a few weeks checking different areas out before committing to moving here. And, as is repeated hundreds of times, keep enough money on hand to move back in case it isn't all you thought it would be.


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  • NRick
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    Originally posted by Hkrjohn View Post

    alaskalist, Craigslist, bulletin boards in the grocery stores in the small communities, word of mouth. There are some real estate agencies that specialize in remote/rural properties, and I would imagine they use the mls system so they would likely show up on sites like Zillow. When I was looking, I found it hard to find properties using sites like Zillow.

    I know there are members on this forum that are selling, so one might just reach out to you.
    LandinAlaska.com is another site to check out.

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  • NRick
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    Originally posted by negativeghostrider View Post
    Hi, All,

    New member, first post. First let me say how appreciative I've been of all the respectful and informative replies I've seen offered to help other people on this site - I've learned so much already and I'm glad to be here.

    Long story short, I'm about sick to death of just about all people, of regulations and ordinances, of commercialism and corporatization and gentrification, and in summary just about everything that characterizes the lower 48 everywhere I seem to turn nowadays. I'm sure it gets easier and easier for you to roll your eyes at all the people vowing to "leave it all behind" in Alaska, but I've started the process of figuring out the relocation and I'm going to make it work. I'm sorry if the questions are a bit basic, but here's my dream and a little background for the answers I'm seeking:

    I want to buy about 50 acres of land and build a simple life in a place I can be proud to be a part of. I want to build a log cabin with my sons and mind my own business and be left alone with my family. My biggest hobby anymore is researching, reading about, learning and practicing the skills necessary for an off-the-grid cabin life, and we'll come as prepared as we can possibly be. So I want to be remote, my definition of remote being access by ATV, snowmachine, or foot (if a float plane or boat is absolutely necessary it gets complicated with my wife). I don't want power, I don't want people, I don't want developed roads around, and I want the proximity of the nearest town to be such that any trip to town will be the result of multiple needs having been filed away until a trip is worth it. I know these things will make just about every part of daily life more of an effort in some regards, but I won't need employment and I'm looking to fill my days with just such effort.

    For the land I want trees and some source or sources of water, and beyond that I've become overwhelmed at the size of Alaska and the seemingly countless different areas it offers. I want an abundance of brown bears and moose around such that they're just part of our property and daily lives, and whatever other big game species I can get I'll consider a wonderful bonus. I just don't know nearly enough to understand which end of the spectrum I'm on with wildlife - is what I'm looking for a pipe dream or is it something that I couldn't avoid even if I wanted to?

    In addition to a finding a place that's quintessentially "Alaska" enough, probably my biggest concern from watching so many beautiful places getting destroyed by Californians is that I'll pick a part of the state that you all could see filling up more rapidly than others - something's got to give down here and people are definitely going to start relocating to more and more places, including Alaska, and bringing their same old baggage with them.

    Soooooo...where would YOU go? Where would you avoid? Peace and quiet, a strong presence of as much major wildlife as possible, trees and water. Teach me!

    Many thanks in advance!
    Anthony
    You're looking for the mythical Alaska that does not exist.

    What does "...but I won't need employment..." mean? You have some money saved up, and steady income like a pension or disability, or independently wealthy? The farther out you go the cheaper the land (generally but not always) and the fewer people. But the more expensive it is to get yourself, building materials, and supplies back and forth. How's your health? Alaska is one of the most expensive places in the world for heath care.

    Have you built anything before? A log cabin from scratch is not an easy endeavor. The state is littered with abandoned cabin building efforts. If you intend to do this you'll want to be looking mostly south of the Alaska Range or southeast Alaska where trees are big enough to be used as cabin logs.

    Alaska has been in a years long recession with no end in sight. I doubt many "Californians" are going to be moving here and destroying the place any time soon.

    You should plan a visit and spend a few weeks checking different areas out before committing to moving here. And, as is repeated hundreds of times, keep enough money on hand to move back in case it isn't all you thought it would be.



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  • Hkrjohn
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    Originally posted by dahlenburg View Post

    Just out of curiosity where do you find listings for old homesteads? Are they on Zillow and similar sites or is there a better resource for finding them?
    alaskalist, Craigslist, bulletin boards in the grocery stores in the small communities, word of mouth. There are some real estate agencies that specialize in remote/rural properties, and I would imagine they use the mls system so they would likely show up on sites like Zillow. When I was looking, I found it hard to find properties using sites like Zillow.

    I know there are members on this forum that are selling, so one might just reach out to you.

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  • dahlenburg
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    Originally posted by Hkrjohn View Post
    I’d look along the Parks Highway between Houston and Fairbanks, along the Glenn Highway between Sutton and Glennallen, along the Richardson Highway between Valdez and Fairbanks and the area around the Tok cutoff off the Richardson highway. 50 acres would be a decent spread. If you a willing to have remote property (I.e. you can’t drive a car or truck to it) and the further you are from the major cities mentioned above, the price drops. It is possible to find property on the road system above away from the cities mentioned, and sometimes you’ll find old homestead properties for sale with very usable structures already in place. I purchased and am moved into one of those old homesteads and am having a blast resurrecting it. The true homesteading boom ended decades ago. Some of the homesteaders who settled during the 60’s and 70s are aging out and you can see these properties being listed.
    Just out of curiosity where do you find listings for old homesteads? Are they on Zillow and similar sites or is there a better resource for finding them?

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  • Hkrjohn
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    I’d look along the Parks Highway between Houston and Fairbanks, along the Glenn Highway between Sutton and Glennallen, along the Richardson Highway between Valdez and Fairbanks and the area around the Tok cutoff off the Richardson highway. 50 acres would be a decent spread. If you a willing to have remote property (I.e. you can’t drive a car or truck to it) and the further you are from the major cities mentioned above, the price drops. It is possible to find property on the road system above away from the cities mentioned, and sometimes you’ll find old homestead properties for sale with very usable structures already in place. I purchased and am moved into one of those old homesteads and am having a blast resurrecting it. The true homesteading boom ended decades ago. Some of the homesteaders who settled during the 60’s and 70s are aging out and you can see these properties being listed.

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