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  • #16
    Originally posted by Brian M View Post
    Actually, I'm not looking at a bird dog. I like bird hunting well enough, but I do it very infrequently, so that's not a priority and I wouldn't want to train a dog to love bird hunting and then not take it out.

    We're getting a goldendoodle. If you had told me that a year ago, I would have scoffed at the notion, but we made that choice based on a couple of factors. First, the no-shedding hypoallergenic aspect is huge from my wife's perspective. I have to be respectful of that being a priority. We're aware that some still shed, but this one is 75% standard poodle, so it shouldn't shed much if at all. Second, we have three neighbors and another friend with dogs from the same breeder (same dam, different sire), and they are all fantastic dogs. I was skeptical, but being around those dogs regularly for the past year has sold me.

    I always pictured myself with a lab or a maybe a pointer or spaniel of some sort, but at this point I'm pretty happy with the idea of a goldendoodle - despite the utter ridiculousness of the breed name.
    Cool. My folks have one of those, I think she came from Homer. She is an awesome dog. She and my now 12 year old son have grown up together. They are inseparable outside, inside she ignores him. Funny as all get out. We got a cat 2 years ago, the dog avoids the cat at all costs inside, outside she herds the cat back into the house. Quite a pair.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Brian M View Post
      Actually, I'm not looking at a bird dog. I like bird hunting well enough, but I do it very infrequently, so that's not a priority and I wouldn't want to train a dog to love bird hunting and then not take it out.

      We're getting a goldendoodle. If you had told me that a year ago, I would have scoffed at the notion, but we made that choice based on a couple of factors. First, the no-shedding hypoallergenic aspect is huge from my wife's perspective. I have to be respectful of that being a priority. We're aware that some still shed, but this one is 75% standard poodle, so it shouldn't shed much if at all. Second, we have three neighbors and another friend with dogs from the same breeder (same dam, different sire), and they are all fantastic dogs. I was skeptical, but being around those dogs regularly for the past year has sold me.

      I always pictured myself with a lab or a maybe a pointer or spaniel of some sort, but at this point I'm pretty happy with the idea of a goldendoodle - despite the utter ridiculousness of the breed name.
      I can see you now, sitting around with your friends, wearing Birkenstocks, drinking lattes and talking about your Goldendoodles. 🤣🤣 lol
      Vegetables arenít food, vegetables are what food eats.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by kingfisherktn View Post
        I can see you now, sitting around with your friends, wearing Birkenstocks, drinking lattes and talking about your Goldendoodles. 🤣🤣 lol
        Ha! Indeed. Oh man...is that the road I'm going down by getting this breed? I'll have to shop for some hemp clothing while I'm at it.

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        • #19
          I got ďstuckĒ with the last pick of the litter for my lab but I got very lucky and could not be happier with my pup who is turning 1 in 2 weeks! He was the biggest of the litter and last pup out actually. I donít think you can go too wrong with your pick as it sounds like all my pups siblings grew up to be great dogs.. itís all about how you train them starting from day one! Here is my Kodiak

          Here is the 7 week picture of him

          And all grown up!



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          • #20
            Originally posted by Brian M View Post
            Ha! Indeed. Oh man...is that the road I'm going down by getting this breed? I'll have to shop for some hemp clothing while I'm at it.
            👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
            Vegetables arenít food, vegetables are what food eats.

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            • #21
              Hereís a little different perspective. Picking a litter and a breeder are where you will have some information. If you can meet the parents or related dogs (and for a hunting dog hunt with them) then you will get an awful lot of knowledge. Find a breeder that you trust and write down whatís important to you and give that to the breeder then trust them to do the picking. They know the breed and they will be with the pups for a couple of months as opposed to a few minutes. I find that everyone wants the best dog and the pick of the litter but their definition of best is not the same. I would put the energy into picking a breeder and/or a litter and communicating what you want to the breeder. After that, just consistently spend time working with your dog and youíll be surprised how they start to fit in to their new pack and try to figure out how to please you.


              -Tom

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              • #22
                Over the years I have seen and tried to use most of the tips folks are offering. In the end the best advice I have read was from the famous trainer Rich Wolters. He said to reach into the pile of pups, grab one, turn turn it over to see if it had the desired plumbing. If so, that's your dog.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 2jumpersplease View Post
                  Hereís a little different perspective. Picking a litter and a breeder are where you will have some information. If you can meet the parents or related dogs (and for a hunting dog hunt with them) then you will get an awful lot of knowledge. Find a breeder that you trust and write down whatís important to you and give that to the breeder then trust them to do the picking. They know the breed and they will be with the pups for a couple of months as opposed to a few minutes. I find that everyone wants the best dog and the pick of the litter but their definition of best is not the same. I would put the energy into picking a breeder and/or a litter and communicating what you want to the breeder. After that, just consistently spend time working with your dog and youíll be surprised how they start to fit in to their new pack and try to figure out how to please you.


                  -Tom
                  Thanks. Yeah, weíve already had quite a few such discussions with the breeder, and she assures us that she can help us pick the right dog. Appreciate the feedback.

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                  • #24
                    Thatís perfect. Communicating what you want to a breeder that cares is about as good as you can do. Very cool.

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                    • #25
                      Brian it sounds like you have a good breeder and litter already. I would not discount that the Goldendoodle won't hunt birds or rabbits. A little training early might pay off when you do get a chance to bird hunt. Good luck with the pup!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Brian M View Post
                        Thanks. Yeah, weíve already had quite a few such discussions with the breeder, and she assures us that she can help us pick the right dog.
                        "Help" you yes, but make sure it's the one that really grabs you, and the rest of your family's interest, for whatever reason. Weather it be perceived temperament, looks, or just plain ol' "got a feeling" about this one. Don't forget, sometimes the runt of the litter can be the best one of the bunch.

                        I remember when I "stole" my chessie. For some reason she was the last one to go, and I wondered about that....was she the runt? But after I got down on the floor and she ran up to me straight away with a little ball in her mouth, let me have it, and I tossed it and she brought it back to me, although I didn't have to make a choice, I knew she was the one. I'll never know if she was the runt but she ended up being around 95 lbs. of muscle so I doubt it. But she did end up being the best bird dog I ever had, besides being my best friend for many years. She did however come from champion stock on both sides as well. What a prize she was! I said I "stole" her, because at the time I was a little low on cash so they let me have her for less than they were asking, which was real cheap to start with. Boy times sure have changed when it comes to prices for these dogs!

                        Good luck Brian, I'm sure you're in for a fun time with the family! Only real hard part is saying goodbye....especially when they grow up with your kids. They do have a tendency to get in under your skin and bury into your heart....sometimes in a real big way. So be prepared!
                        Sheep hunting...... the pain goes away, but the stupidity remains...!!!

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                        • #27
                          If youre looking for a specific characteristic in a dog youre much better off adopting an adult dog then you get what you see. If you buy a puppy you have no guarantwe of health or behavior. This has been confirmed to me by someone who has placed top ten in the national sheepdog finals and somebody who has wonit several times

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                          • #28
                            Fun times Brian! It sounds like you're in a good position with a breeder you trust. Honestly, having picked my own pup a few times, helped raise a few litters, and had breeders pick my dog for me I think the breeder picking is the most likely way to get the right fit for your needs assuming you have good communication about those needs. If you trust your breeder and tell her about your family and plans/needs for the dog, I'd let her choose your pup for you.

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                            • #29
                              I let the dog pick me. Whoever is the most interested in me usually ends up being the one I take home.

                              My logic here is if they are interested in me from that age, it will make training them easier since they have an extreme drive to please and be around "master".


                              So far it has worked out well for me, but for me train-ability is important, whereas for others its not so much.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Daveintheburbs View Post
                                Over the years I have seen and tried to use most of the tips folks are offering. In the end the best advice I have read was from the famous trainer Rich Wolters. He said to reach into the pile of pups, grab one, turn turn it over to see if it had the desired plumbing. If so, that's your dog.
                                I am a big fan of Richard A Wolters (city dog, water dog gun dog) and use his method for selecting the temperment of a dog, based on 5 simple tests where the pup is rated 1 to 5, with 1 being a dog that is soo aggressive it is only good for protecting a junk yard and 5 being a dog that is so timid as to pee when the doorbell rings.
                                The book explaning the tests (which take about 5 minutes per pup) I believe is out of print but a used appears to be available cheap at https://www.amazon.com/City-Dog-Rich.../dp/0876901488

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