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anyone watch the new christensen big stuff volume 4 dvd?

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  • anyone watch the new christensen big stuff volume 4 dvd?

    just got it today & was shocked to see them sneak up on a grizzly up here. when it winded them & took off , they got on their snowmachine, chased the thing down & shot it. it was all on camera??? ***? I tryed to call the hot line on back of the regs but the gal there wasn't any help. so whats a guy to do? I've blown stocks before & threw some shots off. but never chased anything.

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    was it in alaska would be my first question. just call a trooper and let them know what you saw. usually stuff that ends up on tape, they hear about at one point or another.
    theres alot of "bear chasing" on snowmachines in the spring in alot of places...one of those things were the wordin' is used different, to "position" or "pursue"....which one were they doing?
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    • #3
      Its been my understanding that if you position yourself without making the game deviate from its course of travel then it is legal! That what a trooper told my friends in regards to hunting wolfs from snow machines!
      "Mountains are not fair or unfair, they are just dangerous" ~ Reinhold Messner

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      • #4
        Is this youtube link a part of the hunt you are talking about?
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HygKq4aeYiU

        Note that somewhere in that clip they mention they "gotta get down that hill before he gets over those trees." So like Jake said, depending on how they spin it in the dvd, or maybe even what really happened, it could technically be legal. They were positioning themselves and not pursuing.

        Definitely aerial spotting of bears alluded to in that clip, but maybe the BGCSB ethically allowed for that at the last meeting <grin>.

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        • #5
          Bears pretty much make a Beeline in spring, travling across open snowy Tundra, its easy to sneak around and cut them off.
          Wolves will run any wich way, and its best to get above them , if your on a slope and wait for them to come up. I like to wait at a personal "spot" we call "On High" where we have watch over a vast ammount of vally between two mountains, and when Wolves are looking for Caribou, they travle where the Caribou always do, "Up".
          Seeing them coming and then driving a few miles on the backsides of the ridges to cut them off in Ambush is pretty standard........

          If the Vid is bad, send a copy to the Trooper.
          If you can't Kill it with a 30-06, you should Hide.:topjob:

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          • #6
            stranger, bears in some areas don't travel straight to much, some areas they do. seems like different regions the bears do different things than in others. watched a bear den for four days once, when he came out he stayed in the same valley for three days, walkin circles and up and down a river all over the place. 3 days to sort him out, and then he fell over dead....shoulda went somewhere else i guess.
            other places i see them leave the den, no tracks no nothing just a black dot and one little bee line of tracks going over the horizon..other times they come out and stay right at the hole for days on end, never going more than a hundred yards away...
            bears are just weird, which is what makes them so much fun....
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            • #7
              yes bush rat that is the clip, they show themselves running after the bear across a lake? or creek? & the bear is going up the hill on the other side then they get stopped & shoot him/her. at first there is positioning, then the bear winded them=blown stalk, try again next time. not so, then they chase after the bear which knows they are after it. it left a bad taste in my mouth after watching that.

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              • #8
                I hunt Spring Browngrizz in open country.
                I agree about the denning and how some do and some dont hang out.
                But when a Bear, in the terrain I hunt, gets the idea that he's being hunted, leaving in a straight line is more usuall than not. Some will vere for a stand of trees, if theres one (they are few up here) or to rocky crags more likely....the willows are under snow, so theres no where to really go.
                Im not on nearly as many hunts as you , BRWNBEAR, and I hunt the same area for thses reasons, my big Bear Trap, so its just my experiance.

                Often, we do hook onto their tracks along ridge tops and Im sure they are doing the same as us........:topjob:
                If you can't Kill it with a 30-06, you should Hide.:topjob:

                "Dam it all", The Beaver told me.....

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                • #9
                  ya stanger sometimes it stinks workin' new area's have to relearn the bears there. having one go to place really helps out alot in learning how game typically uses and aera.
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                  • #10
                    Well, it seems like a clear case. The animal is running from them and the regs clearly say "You may not take game by pursuing with a vehicle an animal that is fleeing" so its cool that you are bringing it to their attention. Maybe the reason the hotline doesnt work is that it is "Fish and Wildlife Safeguard is a non-profit volunteer citizen's organization." I agree with calling the troopers directly and giving them the name of the video. Good luck!
                    I come home with an honestly earned feeling that something good has taken place. It makes no difference whether I got anything, it has to do with how the day was spent. Fred Bear

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                    • #11
                      Depends on your definition of "pursue" if the definition is "to chase" then it could be argued that you would have to use your OHV to follow the fleeing bear in order to get within range. If you use your OHV to get into a position for a shot without following the animal then you may not have "pursued" it. Yes, there is tons of grey area and doublespeak in the law. Enough that we will not likely reach a consensus but perhaps shooting a PM to the wildlife trooper so he can cover it in the FWT forum would be worthwhile.

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                      • #12
                        maybe the bear was wounded already and they just cut out the first shot in the editing...
                        be curious to know who they are hunting with..i don't know the plane.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BRWNBR View Post
                          maybe the bear was wounded already and they just cut out the first shot in the editing...
                          be curious to know who they are hunting with..i don't know the plane.
                          good thought brwnbr. but i've watch this hunt 25 times in the last day & the bear is not wounded, it is tired from running.
                          LuJon- you have a great point, I would hope all alaskan sportsmen would agree once an animal have picked up your scent or sight & flees, that unless you have a safe shot opportunity. then it's a no go for that animal.

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