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    I put in for a Delta Bison permit for the first time when I was 39 years old. And each year since. For 29 years, I've hoped to have a chance to hunt WILD Bison in Alaska. The system doesn't work for many of us. I still hope to get a chance while I'm still vigorous and can enjoy the hunt, and still have enough teeth to enjoy the great meat.

    The drawing system should be, IMHO, one permit in a lifetime ... for Alaskans only. The current system is a corrupt fund raiser for ADFG, run in the interest of ADFG and guides.

    I sure would like to have my honest chance. 29 years is a long wait. And I have no interest in farmed Bison, no matter how large the pasture.

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    Has anybody won it more than once?
    Alaska Wide Open Charters
    www.alaskawideopen.com
    907-965-0130

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    • #3
      I've only put in for it twice and failed both times, you are not making me feel any better.

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      • #4
        You could save up your permit fees every year and put it towards a kodiak bison (not free range but they aren't fenced from what I understand) or alberta bison. I think there's a sizable herd in British Columbia too, but heard there's a lot of competition for those. There's also a free range herd in South Dakota on one of the indian reservations that I don't think is a draw hunt as long as you hire a guide. Unfortunately at the .6 % the odds are you can apply your whole life and not get one. I'm young and plan on applying for the next 15 to 20 years but if I don't get one by then, then I'm just going to give up and either hunt a farm bison or one in Canada.

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        • #5
          Is it purely for the meat that you guys want to hunt them? Or is the sport? I just don't have a desire to shoot one, but that's just me.
          Alaska Wide Open Charters
          www.alaskawideopen.com
          907-965-0130

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          • #6
            I would like to hunt one because I feel that I would be living my grandfathers dream. Up until he turned 80 he drove out to Quigley Montana to shoot the BPCR (black powder cartridge rife) national championships. He has alwasy been facinated with the history of the old west and Native American history which has everything to do with a buffalo. He was never interested in a canned bison hunt, and often wished out loud that there were more free range bison opportunities. Basically, my gradfather was born about 100 years too late. If I ever draw one, I will use on of his old Sharpes rifles and butcher it with one of his handmade knives.
            Finally, Brad Childress is GONE!

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            • #7
              One way to increase your chances of being able to hunt bison is to also apply for either the Farewell or Copper River herds. I hunted the Farewell bison in 2002 and it was an awesome experience. It's not much better odds, but three applications are better than two.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Brian M View Post
                One way to increase your chances of being able to hunt bison is to also apply for either the Farewell or Copper River herds. I hunted the Farewell bison in 2002 and it was an awesome experience. It's not much better odds, but three applications are better than two.
                Don't forget to explain the Cost differences and logistics there Brian. Or, your just gonna flood the system with applicants that do not have the "means" or the "funds" to hunt the tougher access Bison tags..

                Just sayin.......

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 270ti View Post
                  Has anybody won it more than once?
                  My wifes boss has drawn it twice and was successful both times. If I drew it once and connected I would have completed my dream and would not put in again I would be happy with just one chance. Maybe next year but if not next year I will keep on trying I dont plan to give up till I get it some day.

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                  • #10
                    I don't see where the delta area bison are even one little bit more wild than the ones on Kodiak.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rick View Post
                      I put in for a Delta Bison permit for the first time when I was 39 years old. And each year since. For 29 years, I've hoped to have a chance to hunt WILD Bison in Alaska. The system doesn't work for many of us. I still hope to get a chance while I'm still vigorous and can enjoy the hunt, and still have enough teeth to enjoy the great meat.

                      The drawing system should be, IMHO, one permit in a lifetime ... for Alaskans only. The current system is a corrupt fund raiser for ADFG, run in the interest of ADFG and guides.

                      I sure would like to have my honest chance. 29 years is a long wait. And I have no interest in farmed Bison, no matter how large the pasture.
                      29 years is a long wait, but statistically you'll have to wait about another 170 years just to break even with the odds. You really can't complain about the odds not being in your favor until the draw results get posted in 2181 and you still haven't drawn. The reality is most of us will never draw a Delta bison tag, and that's just the way it is with highly coveted tags. If you really want to shoot a bison just go down to Montana and hunt the Crow Reservation. For a couple thousand bucks they'll let you shoot a bull from their herd. They're technically not free range because the tribe owns them, but they range over a couple hundred thousand acres of the Bighorn Mountains. Don't worry, there's nothing "corrupt" about the tribal system.

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                      • #12
                        Most likely, the Alberta hunt is the most attractive alternative. Last time I checked, the price was $4000, which is reasonable.
                        My other option is a friend who lives in a village in the NWT that is close to the Wood Buffalo Nat. Park. I can hunt with him, but the meat stays in the village; I get the hide and skull.

                        I've put in numerous times for Farewell. I know the area, and would choose a Winter - early March hunt. No luck there and my Skandik SWT is now 13 years old, and, frankly, I don't trust old sno-goes.

                        I'll have to think about the Copper River hunt. My new Scott Hudson Bay may be a good boat for that hunt.

                        My maternal grandfather was a surveyor on the Southern Pacific RR in the 1880's. (He was dead long before I arrived.) My grandmother had the buffalo robe from the bull he shot from the last of the great southern herd. From an early age, I've wanted to hunt buffalo. My time for doing it is rapidly passing. But, enough whining.

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                        • #13
                          Rick,
                          I was very fortunate to get a tag this year, only my second year of puting in for it. If succesful, I wont apply again in hopes that others may have the same opportunity that was awarded me. Good luck in next years draw, now I need to start my homework on this hunt. If anyone has any info it would greatly be appreciated. I would like to use my bow but have heard that the animals get very wery as the hunt goes on and are nearly imposible to stalk.

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                          • #14
                            Don't feel bad. I've been putting in for it off and on since 1989 and still haven't connected.
                            Now what ?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LuJon View Post
                              I don't see where the delta area bison are even one little bit more wild than the ones on Kodiak.
                              Absolutely. They are both free ranging without fences. They are both transplanted. In actuality I'd venture to bet the delta bison see a lot more people every year than the Kodiak ones. Probably tougher country/hunt in Kodiak too.

                              Brett

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