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    Just bought a Remington 700XCR in .338wm. I was wondering, is it to much for blacktail? I mean, if I load it down, is it still to much?

  • #2
    Naw!!!It should kill it.

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    • #3
      338 will work fine

      Where do you plan on hunting Blacktail? You could go to Montague or Kodiak and hunt deer with a 270...but you'll sleep better at night if you take that 338 .

      Ideally a smaller caliber would be better. But, if you are comfortable with that 338 than use it, if you want to avoid wasting too much meat, avoid hitting the deer in the shoulder.

      I use a 375 H&H for everything up here.

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      • #4
        Headed to Kodiak.

        Love the gun and the way it shoots. Just not sure which gun to bring with me. 30.06 or 45/70 or .338? Hate these kind of decisions!!!

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        • #5
          338

          I use mine all the time here in Wi for deer hunting and I dont load them down... 225 grain nosler works great for shooting does here...and bucks too... Good Luck

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          • #6
            Nah...

            it's too small! you need a 90mm recoiless rifle for blacktails! them suckers are HUGE! & boy are they tough! I used a LAW on one of them back in '99, he just looked at me, gave me the hoof & laughed all the way to the next valley...

            .338 big enough? HMPH!

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            • #7
              Defense

              I don't know where you are hunting but lots of blacktail country is also brown bear country and, yes, I know a 270 will kill a bear but there is also the (slight) possibility that you might need to stop a bear. There is a difference, you know.

              The 338 is more rifle than needed for blacktails but one of my friends keeps saying "There is no such thing as too dead". I agree and there is always the possibility of a brownie. So take your 338 deer hunting - my opinion.

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              • #8
                Your 338 will be more then fine. If you handload it can be even better. Load up some 250gr Partitions and rock on. If you dont,any of the factory loads 225gr and up will work good and not destroy too much meat. If you go with the lighter loads below 225gr you will run the chance of ruining alot more meat then you want too.
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                • #9
                  Hmmm...

                  What's wrong with a .243 with a .44 side arm???:confused:

                  Blacktails aren't that large, & a .338 will make a mess of meat, of which there isn't that much to begin with, compared to a .338 size game animal, like a brownie, or a moose...

                  .338 is TOO much...

                  Magnumitis...come on people...get over it...

                  :mad:

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gogoalie View Post
                    What's wrong with a .243 with a .44 side arm???:confused:

                    Blacktails aren't that large, & a .338 will make a mess of meat, of which there isn't that much to begin with, compared to a .338 size game animal, like a brownie, or a moose...

                    .338 is TOO much...

                    Magnumitis...come on people...get over it...

                    :mad:
                    I agree with that as well, but thats not what he was asking.

                    He wanted to know if his 338 would be enough,which we are all in agreement in saying that it is, maybe a little overkill but it will work
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tjkanavel View Post
                      I agree with that as well, but thats not what he was asking.

                      He wanted to know if his 338 would be enough,which we are all in agreement in saying that it is, maybe a little overkill but it will work
                      Well...actually he was asking if the .338 wuold be too much, not if it would be enough.

                      Goalie - unless someone has practiced a lot and is very proficient with a handgun like a .44 mag, they're better off with the rifle they're accustomed to shooting, at least IMO. This guy sounds like he enjoys shooting the .338, is familiar with it - unless he's an expert with a handgun, the .338 would probbely serve him better.

                      Dude - take your .338 and enjoy the trip!

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                      • #12
                        Its only to much if your sure nothing will try to take the deer from you.It will only ruin meat if you hit the meaty parts,not much meat in the heart/lung area and your bullets will past through quick.
                        Now left only to be a turd in the forrest and the circle will be complete.Use me as I have used you

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                        • #13
                          meat damage

                          I don't think a .338 will necessarily destroy any more meat than a smaller caliber. There are too many variables that go into it to say without a doubt that you'd be better off with a smaller gun if you want to avoid destroying meat. I'm with tjkanavel: get some 250 grain Partitions or something similar and go hunting. They will reliably kill a deer without "blowing up" and destroying meat--should just punch straight through. They will also kill a bear if needed.

                          Mdhunter also brings up a good point. You have to be very, very good with a handgun for it to be effective bear defense. I always figured my .44 was useful to either scare off a bear before he got me (due to the loud noise), or to shoot him off of me after he hit me (if I was still alive). I doubt I could take one out if he was charging me. I'm fairly decent with a handgun, at least the Army and Air Force told me I was, but when that fuzzy freight train is coming at you full speed, I bet there are very few people who could reliably make the shot with a handgun.

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                          • #14
                            .338 for sure!

                            I would bring the .338 for sure. I usually carry a 25-06 for deer. I love the gun and is a tack driving machine. I have second thought carrying it in Kodiak. Last fall I started carrying my .338 win mag instead. I shot a nice blacktail last fall in Kodiak with the .338 and nosler 250 grain partitions. Did not make a mess of ruin any more meat than my 25-06. I went out two days later with brother in law looking for more deer and ran into a bear and met face to face at six yards and put one under the chin and one broadside in him. He went 15 yards and was dead. I will not carry anything less in Kodiak again!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dieNqvrs View Post
                              ... Last fall I started carrying my .338 win mag instead. I shot a nice blacktail last fall in Kodiak with the .338 and nosler 250 grain partitions. Did not make a mess of ruin any more meat than my 25-06. ...
                              I think it's velocity that tends to destroy meat more than anything else. For example, the slow-moving 12 gauge slugs I've killed deer with will make a large, laser-like hole through a deer without much disturbing the meat next to the bullet path, but my 300 Win Mag will create some hamburger-like meat with the tissue fairly close to the permanent hole in the animal (this also makes sense as a matter of physics). In my opinion, the 300 Mag with 180gr bullets going 2960 fps still does not usually destroy enough meat to make much difference.

                              .338 factory loads have the 225gr-250gr bullets only going from 2,660-2,800 fps out of the muzzle, which is less than most 30-06 and .308 factory loads and less than all .270 factory loads. IMO, those heavy .338 loads will not destroy significantly, if any, more meat than your (the OP's) 30-06 or 45/70.

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