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  • Mountain Lions in Southeast; Myth or what?

    I have heard several (I think 5) stories of someone seeing an actual mountain lion down in the southeast and even one on the Kenai. Lets at least organize the myths. It's not impossible that a couple have followed the deer or moose up this way. They would actually be a tremendously advantaged predator for stalking moose calves and deer. Has anyone else heard these stories? Especially if anyone has a time and place more specific than southeast.
    Alaskan expat, civil engineer, FAA consultant.

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    There was on killed on Wrangle in 89-90? i forget which year. the guy got in a lot of trouble for shooting and endangered species in AK, being the first documented case of it up here. as i remember the arctical... he heard a commotion out side and saw the eyes in his flash light and shot thinking it was a small bear in the yard... only to find out it was a mt lion..
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    • #3
      I saw a lion on the Al-Can highway in Aug 01. About 5-10 mi inside the Canadian border (Alaska/Canadian). It was sitting in the road, my head lights caught its eyes so I started to slow down (thinking it was a wolf). As I got close enough to actually see the whole animal, it stood up and lazily walked off the road. I was amazed to see a lion this far north. Thats my storie for what its worth. I think it is absolutly feesable that the cat pop could move north for food and solitude as thier habitat down south is constantly encroached.
      Last edited by 2dawgs; 03-14-2009, 11:39. Reason: added date.

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      • #4
        Several years ago a trapper in the SE got tired of F&G telling him there were no cats in AK - they agreed with him once he brought in a hide from one of his traps. I think most people accept that the cats are following the deer north....to Alaska!
        "Actions speak louder than words - 'nough said"

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        • #5
          not the first

          2dawgs,

          Not the first sighting that is for sure. I believe you. I worked for the refuge visitor center there in the early 90's and one day had 5 people stop in and say they saw a mountain lion. They all described it as a very large cat with a long tail. What can you say?

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          • #6
            Interesting. I dont see why not. They can survive the weather in the Colorado mountains and in Canada, why not here? Question is, are they still an endangered species? I know you can hunt them in Colorado.
            Alaskan expat, civil engineer, FAA consultant.

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            • #7
              Rivilla Island

              There has been one reported on Ketchikan's Island.

              You cannot shoot one. They are not in the reg book. If it is not in the reg book you cannot shoot it.

              Not listed as endangered.
              johnnie laird

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              • #8
                What about 'deleterious exotic wildlife'? That says no limit no closed season.
                Alaskan expat, civil engineer, FAA consultant.

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                • #9
                  Check out the wildlife forum...

                  On this topic. Several reliable sitings in southcentral, couple near Anchorage and out on the Kenai. We keep hearing what we think in one near our cabin out in PWS. This topic was in the wildlife forums a month or so ago, in two places, you can read more there.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by highestview View Post
                    What about 'deleterious exotic wildlife'? That says no limit no closed season.
                    Thats critters you buy and bring in.. not natural migration of wild animals
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Vince View Post
                      Thats critters you buy and bring in.. not natural migration of wild animals
                      Such as turkeys, hogs & powder monkeys:eek:
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by spoiled one View Post
                        Such as turkeys, hogs & powder monkeys:eek:
                        What's your address? I need to send you a bill to get the the Crown and Coke cleaned out of my keyboard !!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bushboy View Post
                          What's your address? I need to send you a bill to get the the Crown and Coke cleaned out of my keyboard !!
                          Same here

                          Regarding these cats; many years ago OR/AK did a swap - our elk for your sheep. I really wish they would do another swap for say 20,000 of our mountain lions for...... lets see..... 1 of your rabbits.

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                          • #14
                            By the Regs...

                            Originally posted by Vince View Post
                            Thats critters you buy and bring in.. not natural migration of wild animals
                            From what I found on the F&G Website summary of AK Rodent Laws effective Sept 17, 2007:

                            5 AAC 92.990 Definitions
                            (52) "deleterious exotic wildlife" means any starling, English sparrow, or raccoon; any Muridae rodent, rockdove or Belgian hare that is unconfined or unconstrained; and any feral ferret or feral swine.


                            That would definitely leave out mountain lions.

                            Fuse

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fuse View Post
                              From what I found on the F&G Website summary of AK Rodent Laws effective Sept 17, 2007:

                              5 AAC 92.990 Definitions
                              (52) "deleterious exotic wildlife" means any starling, English sparrow, or raccoon; any Muridae rodent, rockdove or Belgian hare that is unconfined or unconstrained; and any feral ferret or feral swine.


                              That would definitely leave out mountain lions.

                              Fuse
                              And...the wild Turkey's, but F&G still encourages killing them. How come? I would think they would both be considered to be Invasive Species. Bottom line, they speak with a forked tonque and out of both sides of their mouth. The three S's apply when you get the opportunity.
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