Bear charge video

[moose-head]

Prett cool bear charge video I found on you tube it is from a Cabela's video. It is sad that the sow was shot, but they were in a pretty intense situation. The bear may have stopped before the shot, but I can't fault their decision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnsL7-UdGc

[LeonardC]

Great clip. Down under related video is one called "Bear Attack Easton Bowhunting TV" that's also intense. Shows how fast things can go from great to s*&# in a hurry.

[JOAT]

Righteous DLP kill. Nothing else you can do when a bear charges in from a hundred yards out and you've done all the right stuff as far as identifying yourself as a human, making noise, etc. That bear didn't stop and was taken at about 8 yards.

What is really sad about the whole thing is the pure, venomous hate in the comments posted for this video. It is one thing to disagree with a person's lifestyle, but to publicly wish them a violent death is simply disgusting. Don't let your kids read the krap posted on the linked video page!

[tdelarm]

I don't look forward to that situation personally as I doubt my diapers could handle the outcome. :eek:

[irishlord]

I'm sure they did not want to shoot that bear with a cub and they waited until the last possible second to shot. Too Bad, but you have to protect yourself.

[H_I_L_L_B_I_L_L_Y]

Good video

I saw this about a year ago and thought they did the only thing they could do. I tell you what the guy behind the camera is braver than me. great fotage of 100% justified DLP. That bear was not stopping! Hillbilly

[marshall]

The main guy is Charles Allen. I actually gave him some instrument flying lessons back around 1990. He came to Alaska to fly fish off the beach in a C-206. He later got a guide license.

He opened a lodge named Driftwood lodge and started the Knives of Alaska company, quite an entrepreneur.

He's a nice guy, his lodge is for sale on remote Alaska properties and his knife company seems to be doing well. He currently lives in Texas.

http://www.alaskaexpedition.com/host.htm

http://www.knivesofalaska.com/

http://www.remoteproperties.com/lodge/tsiuriver.html

[wantj43]

The video is a "classic" from the stand point of showing what not to do (at least in part) when taking a bear.
1.) instead of taking the bear midway across the opening they waited until the bear was on the extreme left side of the field of fire, greatly reducing the ability to take a second shot; (the animal they intended to harvest)
2.) on at least two occasions, one individual, I believe the guide, placed himself between and individual(s) with a loaded weapon and the charging bear;
3.) no attempt was made to shoot in front the charging animal. Often, though certainly not always, shooting in front of the animal and "spraying" it with sand or gravel will make it turn.

Nothing in this post is intended to suggest the incident was not a legitimate DLP.
Joe (Ak)

[wantj43]

The video is a "classic" from the stand point of showing what not to do (at least in part) when taking a bear.
1.) instead of taking the bear midway across the opening they waited until the bear was on the extreme left side of the field of fire, greatly reducing the ability to take a second shot; (the animal they intended to harvest)
2.) on at least two occasions, one individual, I believe the guide, placed himself between and individual(s) with a loaded weapon and the charging bear;
3.) no attempt was made to shoot in front the charging animal. Often, though certainly not always, shooting in front of the animal and "spraying" it with sand or gravel will make it turn.

Nothing in this post is intended to suggest the incident was not a legitimate DLP.
Joe (Ak)

(Note:The video also shows another bear right about where he takes his second shot - a sow and cub just after are visible on the bank just above where his bear should have been. Unless it wasn't audible, did not sound as if the guide cautioned the hunter about other bear in the immediate area where he took his second shot. Not good.)
Joe (Ak)

[marshall]

2.) on at least two occasions, one individual, I believe the guide, placed himself between and individual(s) with a loaded weapon and the charging bear;

I've never shot a bear or experienced a charging animal or the adrenaline that would drive that type of response. I did notice the above statement when I first watched the video. I too was concerned that the shot came from behind Charles which could have gone real bad in a hurry.

Regardless of the current outcome, it could have been worse and it's always easier to stand back and say what could have been done. Perhaps we can learn from this and improve our skills.

[marshall]

(Note:The video also shows another bear right about where he takes his second shot - a sow and cub just after are visible on the bank just above where his bear should have been. Unless it wasn't audible, did not sound as if the guide cautioned the hunter about other bear in the immediate area where he took his second shot. Not good.)
Joe (Ak)

I had to watch the video again to see what you're referring to. the first shot was taken at 1:36 into the video. I did not see any other bear for about 20 seconds.

I'm pretty sure they where focused on the wounded bear. Hard to say for sure but there may have been a speck in the area that the sow came from prior to the second shot.

[fishin_ak]

The video is a "classic" from the stand point of showing what not to do (at least in part) when taking a bear.
1.) instead of taking the bear midway across the opening they waited until the bear was on the extreme left side of the field of fire, greatly reducing the ability to take a second shot; (the animal they intended to harvest)
2.) on at least two occasions, one individual, I believe the guide, placed himself between and individual(s) with a loaded weapon and the charging bear;
3.) no attempt was made to shoot in front the charging animal. Often, though certainly not always, shooting in front of the animal and "spraying" it with sand or gravel will make it turn.

Nothing in this post is intended to suggest the incident was not a legitimate DLP.
Joe (Ak)

I'm not so sure I'd say this exemplifies "what not to do." I agree that the original shot on the animal they intended to harvest could have been taken a little sooner. If the "client" had not been so worried about the video production, perhaps that would have happened. Doubtful the extra twenty yards the bear walked before he fired the first shot would have given him any better chance at a second shot since the bear was standing still and his second shot seemed to miss completely anyway. As for the guide stepping in front of a loaded weapon, maybe if the "client" hadn't been backpedaling, he wouldn't have had to step in front of him to save his own ass. If you want to use your first shot in attempt to spray gravel in the face of a bear that's hell bent on putting you on the ground, let me know how that works out for you. I think Charles is one cool customer to have waitied as long as he did to take his shot. It's easy to armchair QB something like this. Having been false charged to within about 10 yards a few years ago on the Russian river and hearing all the "what I would have dones" although you might think you know how you'll react, it's a whole different ball game when it's for real.

[wantj43]

"...what I would have dones" although you might think you know how you'll react, it's a whole different ball game when it's for real.

By now think I "know' how I would react, but, then you might be right.
Joe (Ak)

[MBURNS2244]

By now think I "know' how I would react, but, then you might be right.
Joe (Ak)

I agree with FishinAK. Theres absolutely no way you can know for certain how you would react in that situation. Unless you've been charged by a bear and had to react I think its impossible to know for sure. When the **** hits the fan all you can do is hope that you are able to preform the things you mentally prepared youself to do in a given situation. Joe, I think its excellent that you've already given quite a bit of thought as to how you would react.

When I watched this video a year or so ago I realized that after the charging sow was shot the guide is audibly upset that they had to harvest the sow. Personally I think this represents exactly what you ought TO DO.

[danattherock]

Some good points made here. Until you are in the situation for yourself, your opinion does not really matter that much. Hindsight is always 20/20.