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  • Moose Quarter in Dumpster!

    So I make a trip to the dumpsters at Steese and Farmers Loop road yesterday here in Fairbanks. I look in one of the dumpsters (yes a little dumpster diving) and there is a whole moose shoulder! Looked in good shape. Skinned and was maybe hung up for a time. Thought about calling it in but how could the culprits be found? Maybe if we all keep our ears and eyes open we can catch these type of so-called hunters in the future. All this after I just got my first solo moose. I know how much work is involved and to see this waste of a magnificant animal makes me sick.

    Keep your eyes and ears open for these kinds of lowlifes......
    A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and donít have one, youíll probably never need one again

  • #2
    Why would you call it in? We are required to salvage the meat from the field. We are not required to eat it or even give it away.
    I know it looks bad, but there isn't a crfime to cal in in this case.
    Coulda been a quarter from someones freezer from last year??????????
    I can't help being a lazy, dumb, weekend warrior.......I have a JOB!
    I have less friends now!!

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    • #3
      Wanton Waste

      Martentrapper,

      I gotta disagree with you. The statute reads:

      Sec. 16.30.010. Wanton waste of big game animals and wild fowl.

      (a) It is a class A misdemeanor for a person who kills a big game animal or a species of wild fowl to fail intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence to salvage for human consumption the edible meat of the animal or fowl.

      ...

      Seems to me somebody failed to salvage it for human consumption if nobody consumed it.

      Can you prosecute someone for freezerburn? You probably couldn't get a jury to convict. But if it's an entire moose shoulder, you oughta try.

      I'm not suggesting misdemeanor charges because a couple of roasts got lost behind the frozen guacamole and ruined. But a moose quarter is a lot of meat. And it shows a real disrespect for the resource. It is, quite simply, wasteful and wrong. That's why it's a crime.

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      • #4
        waste...

        It seems totally irresponsible to throw away that much meat, freezer burnt or otherwise. With all the dog mushers in this state, many would clamour for it.
        Seems like quite a waste.
        Proud to be an American!

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        • #5
          It didn't look like it had been hanging in a freezer all year to me. It looked like it had been hanging long enough to get a good crust on it and for some reason it was dumped. Either way, it was wasted. Should have been cut and wrapped or given away to charity this year or last if it was left over. Also, it is against the law to dispose of wild game parts like bones, scraps, etc. at public dump sites. Plus, this type of behaviour reflects badly on REAL hunters.

          Your response begs the question: Was it you?

          Originally posted by martentrapper View Post
          Why would you call it in? We are required to salvage the meat from the field. We are not required to eat it or even give it away.
          I know it looks bad, but there isn't a crfime to cal in in this case.
          Coulda been a quarter from someones freezer from last year??????????
          A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and donít have one, youíll probably never need one again

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          • #6
            I have to agree I think it was wanton waste also

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 8x57 Mauser View Post
              Martentrapper,

              I gotta disagree with you. The statute reads:

              Sec. 16.30.010. Wanton waste of big game animals and wild fowl.

              (a) It is a class A misdemeanor for a person who kills a big game animal or a species of wild fowl to fail intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence to salvage for human consumption the edible meat of the animal or fowl.

              ...

              Seems to me somebody failed to salvage it for human consumption if nobody consumed it.

              Can you prosecute someone for freezerburn? You probably couldn't get a jury to convict. But if it's an entire moose shoulder, you oughta try.

              I'm not suggesting misdemeanor charges because a couple of roasts got lost behind the frozen guacamole and ruined. But a moose quarter is a lot of meat. And it shows a real disrespect for the resource. It is, quite simply, wasteful and wrong. That's why it's a crime.

              It was salvaged from the field for human consumption. No law however says you have to consume it. No laws broken here.

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              • #8
                what a shame, someone could have used it.
                Cold Zero
                Member: S.C.I., N.R.A. Life Endowment Member & L.E. Tactical Firearms Instr.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AlleninAlaska View Post
                  It was salvaged from the field for human consumption. No law however says you have to consume it. No laws broken here.

                  How do you figure, Allen? It was carried out of the field. It seems pretty apparent to me that it wasn't salvaged for human consumption. I really don't think the intent, nor the letter of that law is subject to debate. Putting it directly into the dumpster (if that is what happened) is not harvesting it for human consumption. I really don't see how you can argue otherwise. Care to elaborate?

                  -Brian

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                  • #10
                    By the way, Allen, you used the term "from the field". That term is not in the law cited, indicating that a hunter's legal responsibility to salvage for human consumption does not end once they are out of the field.

                    -Brian

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                    • #11
                      No way...

                      I disagree. If it were salvaged for human consumption it would not have ended up in the dumpster. Where is the intent to salvage? Your logic says we can quarter an animal in the field and then on the way home pitch it in the dumpster instead of processing it....."for human consumption". If it was wrapped freezer burned meat then there would be evidence that it was salvaged for consumption. In this case it was a whole shoulder. Could have been on the meat pole the day before for all we know.

                      Originally posted by AlleninAlaska View Post
                      It was salvaged from the field for human consumption. No law however says you have to consume it. No laws broken here.
                      A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and donít have one, youíll probably never need one again

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                      • #12
                        its simple

                        the law says that it must be salvaged for human consumption, not for dumpster consumption

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                        • #13
                          Or it could of been from a road kill. To blood shot or whatever.
                          Rules are a little different on salvage.
                          Shoot to kill, kill to eat!

                          http://adventuremongers.com/index.ph...id=40&catid=13

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                          • #14
                            Was it me? What a nice way for a moderator to conduct himself. But hey, I'll answer the question.
                            I live in Nome. You said you found the quarter in a dumpster in Fbks. I haven't been in Fbks since early aug. So to answer your totally stupid question..........NO, it wasn't me.
                            I didn't say I supported throwing away meat. I just pointed out that this wasn't a violation. If you don't believe me, call it in. Check with the troops. You'll see I'm (and Allen) right. Once the meat is brought into town, or to your home, or to a place to process it...........the requirements of the law have been satisfied. What happens after the legal requirements are satisfied is up to the individual.
                            Brian (BM) Allen doesn't need to argue otherwise. YOU need to check with the troopers. Your too unfamiliar with the law.
                            Frank, (fullkurl)..........while throwing game meat in a dumpster is not a violation, feeding game meat to dogs IS! I know it doesn't completely make sense, but that is the law.
                            Snyd, was the quarter stinky? Was it dirty? Maybe you should have brought it home and cleaned it up and cut and wrapped it.
                            Snyd, could you post the law that says it is illegal to dump game scraps at public dump sites? How many of you guys have put some bones, hide, viscera, etc. in the trash for the disposal company to pick up? How is that different from putting your meat scraps in a dumpster.
                            Oh, and snyd.............maybe you could get together with bushrat and let us all know how to be "real" and "true" hunters.
                            I can't help being a lazy, dumb, weekend warrior.......I have a JOB!
                            I have less friends now!!

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                            • #15
                              People are too lazy to prove as fact what they want others to believe are fact. Put up proof it is a violation of the law, prove me wrong or just quit complaining. No law was broken other than what is moraly or ethically correct. But who are we too judge other morals or ethics? And nobody has yet to prove where this quarter came from.

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