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    For those hunting with their kids, or anyone needing a Hunters Safety card: ADF&G will be checking for proof of Hunters Safety certification this year. So make sure you dig out those cards and take them with you. Good luck this season
    Bob

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    stupid question, is this the same as hunters ed cert
    I'm prolly out using my bow or 30-30

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TexasBoy View Post
      stupid question, is this the same as hunters ed cert
      Yes, I believe it's the same.

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      • #4
        It's pretty funny to me how this works. To hunt in most states, I need to show the Hunters Education Certificate I earned 36 years ago when I was ten years old in Cowley County Kansas. I can barely recall doing that. Since then, I have qualified expert in the USMC with pistol and rifle; handled and slept with military weapons of all sorts for hundreds of days in military training and in combat; hunted large without incident scores of times; etc ... But I can only hunt if I show that my certificate of what I barely can recall doing and learning when I was ten. Of course, my daddy taught me 1,000 times more about gun safety than I learned in four hours in south central Kansas 36 years ago. If the point of the requirement is awareness of, and compliance with, gun safety principles, it's interesting that military training and combat service can't overcome a lack of a hunters education certificate. Similarly, though I am not one, a 20-yr SWAT-team veteran could not hunt without a hunters ed. cert. Even if I had no objective formal training and experience, which really doesn't matter, I could not possibly be more or less safe in hunting based on some four-hour lecture I went through in Cowley County Kansas 36 years ago when I was ten. Just my opinion.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the tip!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MarineHawk View Post
            It's pretty funny to me how this works. To hunt in most states, I need to show the Hunters Education Certificate I earned 36 years ago when I was ten years old in Cowley County Kansas. I can barely recall doing that. Since then, I have qualified expert in the USMC with pistol and rifle; handled and slept with military weapons of all sorts for hundreds of days in military training and in combat; hunted large without incident scores of times; etc ... But I can only hunt if I show that my certificate of what I barely can recall doing and learning when I was ten. Of course, my daddy taught me 1,000 times more about gun safety than I learned in four hours in south central Kansas 36 years ago. If the point of the requirement is awareness of, and compliance with, gun safety principles, it's interesting that military training and combat service can't overcome a lack of a hunters education certificate. Similarly, though I am not one, a 20-yr SWAT-team veteran could not hunt without a hunters ed. cert. Even if I had no objective formal training and experience, which really doesn't matter, I could not possibly be more or less safe in hunting based on some four-hour lecture I went through in Cowley County Kansas 36 years ago when I was ten. Just my opinion.
            There are probably a good number of other programs that provide equal or better training than the Hunter Ed course. The problem is that someone would have to sit there and evaluate each and every one to determine if it met the minimum standards they have. They would spend tons of time/money evaluating all the different "certification" methods people submit in place of hunter ed. In many cases, the determination of whether it qualified would be a bit ambiguous and thus not equitable. The hunter ed course is specifically geared toward hunting, the activity it makes you elegible for. It is clear and easy to use.

            FYI - While there are surely many people in the service that are far better trained than I and probably most with respect to firearms safety and use, there are also plenty who I wouldn't trust being within a mile of in the field during hunting season because, while they may be competent with a gun, they are not competent or safe when it comes to hunting. Just to clarify, this is not limited to people in the service, I am just using that because it was part of your example.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Teri View Post
              For those hunting with their kids, or anyone needing a Hunters Safety card: ADF&G will be checking for proof of Hunters Safety certification this year. So make sure you dig out those cards and take them with you. Good luck this season
              Bob
              Personally, I always assume I will be checked for any and all things required to hunt legally and prepare accordingly. Glad to see they will be enforcing the rules on the books.

              It is a good reminder though. Easy to get complacent about carrying some of those things if they haven't been looking for it much, if at all in the past.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Teri View Post
                For those hunting with their kids, or anyone needing a Hunters Safety card: ADF&G will be checking for proof of Hunters Safety certification this year. So make sure you dig out those cards and take them with you. Good luck this season
                Bob
                I assume you mean the troopers, not ADFG?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Teri View Post
                  For those hunting with their kids, or anyone needing a Hunters Safety card: ADF&G will be checking for proof of Hunters Safety certification this year. So make sure you dig out those cards and take them with you. Good luck this season
                  Bob
                  Hmmmmm.....that interesting. I have always believed that it was the people selling the licence that had the responsibility of needing to see the card before issuing the licence. But apparently that's not the case anymore. I've never bought a license online so I don't know, but I would think that even then, when seeing the age of the applicant, that there would be a system of needing proof of hunter's ed before selling the license. Guess not......
                  Sheep hunting...... the pain goes away, but the stupidity remains...!!!

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                  • #10
                    Off topic, but I went bird hunting in Kansas about 10 years ago and when I was purchasing my hunting license on line, it asked for my hunter ed card #. I just randomly through in some #'s and got my hunting license. I was never checked in the field, but I wonder how or if they would even notice or investigate it's validity.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by AK Troutbum View Post
                      I just randomly through in some #'s and got my hunting license.
                      That's surprising as I would think those card numbers would be in a database somewhere. Kinda like when you put in a bogus credit card number and it says "not valid".....
                      Sheep hunting...... the pain goes away, but the stupidity remains...!!!

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                      • #12
                        No computers around for that purpose when I got my card.


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                        • #13
                          Where did you get this information?


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 4merguide View Post
                            That's surprising as I would think those card numbers would be in a database somewhere. Kinda like when you put in a bogus credit card number and it says "not valid".....
                            Really?!?! You think there is some master database of that sort? You can barely read mine. I doubt TPWD could even spell database when I took my class, much less share it with every Wildlife Department in the nation.

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                            • #15
                              Last year in Missouri on my goose hunt we were checked for licenses and they asked for the hunter ed card, glad I had it with me.

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