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  • Are These Your Shrimp Pots?

    I just spent a couple weeks poking around the east half of PWS and was astounded at the insane number of abandoned shrimp pots floating around. You can't hardly swing a dead humpie carcass without hitting a buoy ball out there! In the course of just two days of cruising around I came across four sets of pots. I pulled three of them (by hand, mind you), and then gave up, and started trying to ignore them when I spotted another one in my travels. Frankly, it's disgusting and dispiriting...and infuriating. IMO, AST should dedicate a Trooper to cruising PWS after the season closes, pick up all the abandoned gear, and the owners who couldn't be bothered to track down their lost or "stolen" gear should be fined $5000 for littering, and lose their fishing license. It would be a self funding / profit making operation for the AST.

    This set of two pots was at the mouth of Eickelberg Bay. It belongs to one B. Pickett of Palmer. I left these in the custody of the Valdez Harbor Master until the AST wildlife Trooper returned to retrieve them. They had been in the water long enough for 1/2" mussels to grow on the buoy line. The welds on the frames were rusting out, but the netting was still intact and they had live fin fish in them, as well as the skeletal remains of dead fin fish.

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    This string of three was floating around in the Port of Valdez, and after becoming tired of passing them floating in different locations for several days in a row I pulled them too. The day I pulled them they had grounded out near the Narrows. They're now sitting at the high tide line between Shoup Bay and the Narrows. The ball was completely unmarked. The pots were completely closed up with zip ties, there were no rot out panels, and they were still fishing.

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    These appear to be a couple of Steve the Pot Builder's pots. They were also grounded out near the Narrows of the Port of Valdez. They were completely sealed up with zip ties, had no rot out panels, and were still fishing. If there was a name on the ball it's now completely indiscernible. The address is PO Box 746, Valdez. Phone 461-7172. These are now above the tide line in front of the cabin in Shoup Bay.

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    As of a few days ago, there was a string of pots bobbing in the mouth of Long bay. Judging by the flora and fauna growing on the line they too have been in the water for a long time. The names on the ball were difficult to discern, and I had better things to do than make a career out of pulling rogue illegal pots, so I left them, and thereafter started ignoring buoy balls when I passed by one.
    Last edited by iofthetaiga; 09-28-2020, 11:11.
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    • #3
      There were a lot of people on Prince William Sound Hunting and Fishing posting about loosing pots this year. I posted the first image over there. People do not read the rules, it's pretty obvious. I pulled in one pot this year, 800 feet of water. It was a Donaldson round pot and they had the rope tied around the bottom of the pot netting with the closure string. Only thing on the pot was a DOT number.

      I lost a set one year in my beginning years. I told our trooper and never heard back. Come February he gives me a call. He found the floating and had retrieved them for me. I appreciated that.

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      • #4
        Found someone that knows the first person. PM's sent.

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        • #5
          Found the guy with the pots from Steve. He is going out today to pick them up.

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          • #6
            iofthetaiga

            Your post did well and I am sure the people appreciate it. I found the first person and have his pots in my boat barn to connect when we can. The pots in Shoop, he went out last night to look but I have not heard back. The other person is on his own I guess. Good Job!


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Daveinthebush View Post
              Your post did well and I am sure the people appreciate it. I found the first person and have his pots in my boat barn to connect when we can. The pots in Shoop, he went out last night to look but I have not heard back. The other person is on his own I guess. Good Job!
              You're a good man, Dave! Frankly, my interest was in getting the trash out of the ocean. I wasn't especially concerned about getting a bunch of pots returned to people who abandoned them in the first place. You're earning good karma for going way, WAY above and beyond what is deserved (IMO).

              As I said, there are countless more still floating around out there as we type. They're ridiculously easy to spot and it's inexplicable to me that the owners can't be bothered to track down the gear they've lost. To my mind it's inexcusable. If I made the rules I'd say any ball which is unmarked or improperly/illegibly marked is free for the taking. Same for any gear left in the water after the season has closed, marked or not.
              Last edited by iofthetaiga; 09-29-2020, 12:48.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Daveinthebush View Post
                iofthetaiga

                Your post did well and I am sure the people appreciate it. I found the first person and have his pots in my boat barn to connect when we can. The pots in Shoop, he went out last night to look but I have not heard back. The other person is on his own I guess. Good Job!
                I would be curious as to why these folks did not recover their gear on their own. Did they give reasons?
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                • #9
                  I've lost my pots a few times. I eventually found them each time but you might be surprised how hard even a bright orange ball can be to see in 3ft white caps when you are not sure where to look. One set made it several miles from where I put them. Another string got cleaned off the bottom by an iceberg. That one took a while to find too. The personal info on the bouys got refreshed each year so it was legible.

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                  • #10
                    I know from talking with the 1st person, that their pots were out by Columbia glacier. There was a full
                    moon and real high tide and lots of ice coming out which must have swept them away. They looked for them but with all the ice could not find them.

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                    • #11
                      "If made the rules I'd say any ball which is unmarked or improperly/illegibly marked is free for the taking."
                      I shrimp all summer and the number of pots, marked incorrectly is amazing. Even the pot requirements. I made a comment about getting shrimp permits handed in on another site and some weren't even aware that they had too.

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                      • #12
                        It is frustrating to hear this (as one who follows the rules to the best of my ability)--there's no excuse for improper marking of buoys!
                        Note to self: Don't argue with idiots, it just beings you down to their level where they overwhelm you with their more extensive experience in being an idiot.... and, you can't fix stupid!

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                        • #13
                          Nice work Dave and yes they are pots i built, not my bridle set ups though. Wonder why the escapes were zip tied ?
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                          • #14
                            probably didnt understand what the cotton was for and once it started to frey they zip tied it thinking it would hold better then the cotton.
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                            but its because I refuse to pimp products for free.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kwackkillncrew View Post
                              probably didn't understand what the cotton was for and once it started to frey they zip tied it thinking it would hold better then the cotton.
                              I'm thinking either can't read the shrimp permit or did not take the time to read it.

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