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  • fullbush
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    Originally posted by Muttley Crew Fishing View Post
    Yes, there are forum members that would be willing to take 4 people. Just do a little homework.

    I might even do three. Hope that's not overstepping the bounds of commercialism.
    you may as well not even roll out of the fart sack on derby day unless you want to blow a tank of gas for the sake of saying you didn't miss the derby

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  • Muttley Crew Fishing
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    Originally posted by homerdave View Post
    you might have better luck trying to talk someone on the forum into going....
    Yes, there are forum members that would be willing to take 4 people. Just do a little homework.

    I might even do three. Hope that's not overstepping the bounds of commercialism.

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  • excalibur
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    My thoughts exactly, but you forgot about taking the boat out of Layup to insure it for the day.

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  • homerdave
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    sorry... i get distracted. :shot:
    short story, call the chamber and see if they have a list going of folks who want to fish.
    all the queries i have made have led to no openings at all....
    most of my charter friends have a regular party that books for the derby every year, or they are just taking friends or family.
    you might have better luck trying to talk someone on the forum into going....

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  • breausaw
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    Can we get focused here; I got two girls that want to go fishing.

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  • Muttley Crew Fishing
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    Originally posted by homerdave View Post
    oh, c'mon muttley...
    since i've been fishing the derby we have had to postpone it to the next weekend once because the harbor was SOLID, and once we had to move it to sunday because of heavy icing conditions, and it's been iffy right up until derby day on a few occasions as well.
    to say there is "usually no ice in the harbor at all" around derby day just shows how long you have been fishing it...
    In all the years I've been fishing it (since they held it in Feb.) I've only had one year that I had to launch at the gas dock ramp because of the ice.

    WOW! Two years out of 18. Gee, that sounds like a real problem to me. Get real.

    Sure there are always going to be times when ice is a problem, but I'd be it you took the last 18 years and averaged them out there'd be a lot less times ice has been a problem than when it has been. Do you have any statistics to dispute that? Please post them. I'd really be interested.

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  • homerdave
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    Originally posted by Muttley Crew Fishing View Post
    And by the time of the winter king tourny there's usually no ice in the harbor at all.
    oh, c'mon muttley...
    since i've been fishing the derby we have had to postpone it to the next weekend once because the harbor was SOLID, and once we had to move it to sunday because of heavy icing conditions, and it's been iffy right up until derby day on a few occasions as well.
    to say there is "usually no ice in the harbor at all" around derby day just shows how long you have been fishing it...

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  • Muttley Crew Fishing
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    Originally posted by Old John View Post
    There are a few die-hard salmon charter operators who leave their boats in the water (or on trailers at the ready) all year... However, the majority of Homer charter boats are hauled out, winterized, and stored for the winter... it's not economically feasable for those Charter's to un-winterize, schedule the crane and have the boat dropped back in the water for a short 1 days charter.. and then have to reschedule (high tides only) the crane to lift the boat out of the water, re-winterize the boat... and wait til April to go back in the water... Consequently you have a very small number of available Charters for this March K Salmon derby... and based on the old law of supply and demand, prices are adjusted accordingly... I don't know what the harbor condx are this year, but in past years I know of Capt's that did put their boats back in the water for the charters.. several boats plugged up their water intakes with slush and ice, over heating their diesel engines before they got out of the breakwaters...... Not a good way to start the season..... Smaller Boats stored on trailers are a little better off, but still you have to un-winterize them, charge the Batteries, and make sure everything is working.... etc; etc;... I think the people who originated this March Salmon Derby envisioned more private boats than Charters..../John
    I leave my boat in the harbor all winter, so there's no having to "crane" my boat out of the water. This winter has been particularly cold and there's been a lot of ice, but right now I can go in and out of the harbor whenever I feel like it. And by the time of the winter king tourny there's usually no ice in the harbor at all. There are plenty of charter operators that leave their boats in the water all winter, so there's no trailering or "craning" boats into the water. In the last 8 days I've been out 7 days. There are a lot of private boats out there during the derby, but I'd guess about 50% of them are charters. I know where I'll be that day. And I don't charge more just because I know there aren't that many charter operators out there. That's heinous.

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  • Old John
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    Originally posted by Brian M View Post
    Seems like demand would justify a higher than normal price. Over 800 folks fished the derby last year and, from what I understand, most charters are booked well in advance. Simple economics dictates that they can charge a bit higher than normal since there is a lot of demand for limited slots. Of course, I don't know what you mean by a "super high price".
    There are a few die-hard salmon charter operators who leave their boats in the water (or on trailers at the ready) all year... However, the majority of Homer charter boats are hauled out, winterized, and stored for the winter... it's not economically feasable for those Charter's to un-winterize, schedule the crane and have the boat dropped back in the water for a short 1 days charter.. and then have to reschedule (high tides only) the crane to lift the boat out of the water, re-winterize the boat... and wait til April to go back in the water... Consequently you have a very small number of available Charters for this March K Salmon derby... and based on the old law of supply and demand, prices are adjusted accordingly... I don't know what the harbor condx are this year, but in past years I know of Capt's that did put their boats back in the water for the charters.. several boats plugged up their water intakes with slush and ice, over heating their diesel engines before they got out of the breakwaters...... Not a good way to start the season..... Smaller Boats stored on trailers are a little better off, but still you have to un-winterize them, charge the Batteries, and make sure everything is working.... etc; etc;... I think the people who originated this March Salmon Derby envisioned more private boats than Charters..../John

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  • Muttley Crew Fishing
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    Sorry folks. For about the only charter operator that doesn't gouge their clients during the derby just because they can get away with it I am booked and have about 6 other people looking to charter with me.

    Yeah, the weather sucked yesterday, but the day before was beautiful and produced this nice 15 pounder off the Bluffs:

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    Pogi to 4th of July has been really spotty. I've been out there a few time in the last week with limited success. I would stay closer to 4th of July rather than go all the way out to Pogi.

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  • homerdave
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    buddy had a charter yesterday, really iffy conditions, wind chill below zero and the only place to fish was the islands due to weather. they left at 9 and got back just before 6 for one #12 king and a cod, and one missed strike...
    i was out a couple times running folks around, and it was pretty cold out there!
    the weather looks good for thursday, so i may make a go of it and head for pogi, been some fish out there and they will have been left alone for a few days ....

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  • homerdave
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    made a couple of calls, and your best bet is to call the chamber, 235-7740, and see if they have a list going for folks who are looking for charters.
    everyone i know who has a boat in the water and is planning on fishing the derby is full.
    as to a $550 price quote, that is totally out of line, unless you were quoted a "whole boat" price and you just figured your share. i know guys who will only charter the whole boat for the derby, as it eliminates any potential argument over winnings if everyone is in one party... (or at least any argument the skipper needs to worry about)

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  • fullbush
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    Originally posted by AKBroncoII View Post
    Cheapest one I found was $550 a person. That's much higher than I had expected to pay. Seemed a little out of line on pricing considering cost of fuel, motel, derby entry. Looking at close to $1000 for the day. I opted out this year unless something comes up.
    hey like I said before theres 30k on the table for the prudent charter skipper that wants to take me for a half day. Even better they get a photo op w/ me up on the winners podium....priceless

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  • Brian M
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    Whoa...yeah, that's a bit steep, isn't it? I was figuring something along the lines of $250-300, but that shows what I know regarding charter prices.

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  • zeb
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    Booking?

    Mutt, you gots any openin's? You gots a number?

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