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  • fullbush
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    I as of yet have not been offered a ride! I'm thinking of going down the weekend of the 12th w/ my wife and try to charter the mut or someone else but they all seem pretty busy. I'm about to offer an unprecedented 35 % and of course accompany me on the podium :whistle:

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  • Brian M
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    Did you find a ride for the derby, fullbush? I sure hope so, since the more participants there are the larger my share of the winnings will be. Onward to victory! (and a nice white king sushi roll for dinner, as well)

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  • fullbush
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    http://www.homeralaska.org/winterkin...erby/index.htm
    FYI

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  • fullbush
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    Hey 270ti you need to come up and fish this derby w/ me. You could put your hand trolling skiff on the ferry I know the kings in Homer are feeders and kind of nasty but we may as well collect our prize money and kiss a few hippie chicks on the podium

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  • Muttley Crew Fishing
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    Originally posted by Homertime View Post
    One of the neat things about the HWKD is that it's a one day deal. Anyone can win, and the odds are evened up just a little bit between the professionals and the amateurs when it's fishing for an 8 hour period. Contrast that with the Halibut Jackpot Derby, which runs all summer, and is highly slanted to the charter guys. Professional guides always have an edge, if for no other reason than the time they spend out there doing it. I'm cerainly not complaining. It's just the nature of the beast.
    Charter operators are not allowed to fish in the Jackpot Halibut Derby even if they go out by themselves on a day off. Obviously your chances of catching a BIG halibut are increased by fishing with a charter operation, but since that's what the majority of people do it might increase your odds. The nice thing about the derby is there are over a hundred tagged fish out there and all it takes to catch one of them is being in the right place at the right time. And all the tagged fish are in the 10 lb. range so it doesn't take knowing any special secrets to catching one. And you don't have to go far to find them. I caught a 2008 tagged fish this year about 12 miles from the end of the Spit (it wasn't worth anything, but it would have been worth $1000 two years ago) and I do know there were a few caught off of Seldovia this summer. Sorry for the slight hijack here, but I wanted to answer to that "guide advantage" thing.

    Also, when it comes to the Winter King Derby it is no secret where the charter operators are fishing. I was out by 4th of July most of the day last year and I bet I counted at least 30 diffferent charter boats circling around the area. They may have "special methods" they employ to get fish, but there really aren't any "REAL" secret weapons and if you have the slightest clue what you're doing out there and you're in the right place at the right time you're going to catch that big fish.

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  • fullbush
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    Originally posted by POLE BENDER View Post
    Dang Fullbush, your gonna freeze your cahones off if your taking the craft in your new avatar, gonna give us all a chance and use a cane pole too i suppose!
    Hey I'm all about fair play! I had to come up w/ something to fish the derby, my in-box isn't exactly runneth over w/ invitations.:whistle: I can't very well drag the gillnetter all the way down to Homer for one measly 50,000 dollar fish, now can I?

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  • POLE BENDER
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    Originally posted by fullbush View Post
    Sounds good to me I say we have our own little derby. Nothing like a friendly little contest between anglers is there? let the games commence!
    Dang Fullbush, your gonna freeze your cahones off if your taking the craft in your new avatar, gonna give us all a chance and use a cane pole too i suppose!

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  • fullbush
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    Originally posted by POLE BENDER View Post
    SO........ How about a little forum "side bet" ??????????? beit for bragging rights, rep points, beer, or money????????
    commit on the bet, sign up, and largest fish take all, be it the podium fish or not, only certified weights available from the derby results. could do it as boat side bets are done with the derby or as individual persons. i know i spend more time running the boat than I do fishing..

    Just a thought..
    Sounds good to me I say we have our own little derby. Nothing like a friendly little contest between anglers is there? let the games commence!

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  • Homertime
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    One of the neat things about the HWKD is that it's a one day deal. Anyone can win, and the odds are evened up just a little bit between the professionals and the amateurs when it's fishing for an 8 hour period. Contrast that with the Halibut Jackpot Derby, which runs all summer, and is highly slanted to the charter guys. Professional guides always have an edge, if for no other reason than the time they spend out there doing it. I'm cerainly not complaining. It's just the nature of the beast.

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  • tlingitwarrior
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    [QUOTE=Muttley Crew Fishing;870452]Cut plugs work great, but I have a "secret weapon" that I like an awful lot (my profile picture was caught with one), so cut plugs are not an absolute necessity. I have heard of people using "Firetiger" Krockodiles very effectively and various other "rainbow" sort of spoons. I've also caught a few on "rainbow" TeeSpoons. Another good one is a "squid imitation" in the "glo" variety.

    ?? How can plastic improve on the real thing? Its impossible to improve on the "real thing" LOL

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  • POLE BENDER
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    its all good Muttley,
    I don twant to get another "pissing" match started i just love good old friendly competition.
    besides i usually just get lucky anyway. Just ask Rolland on the River, still got his goat

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  • Muttley Crew Fishing
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    Originally posted by POLE BENDER View Post
    In case I am wrong in my statement, it could be for bragging rights, rep points or just plain FUN..
    doesn't sound like too many are interested anyway?
    I guess the reason I'm just really not that interested in doing something like that is because I just find there are a few too many people on this forum that think "winning" some sort of forum contest like that would be a good excuse for putting other people down that they don't like for some odd reason and it kind of becomes a pissing match as so many of these threads turn out when it comes to "my fish are better than your fish" discussions.

    I would love the notoriety of winning the derby because I'm sure it would help my business and it's kind of nice knowing you've caught the biggest fish out of all those people---and I can assure you I'd love to have that prize money in my pocket---but I don't do it because I want everyone to think I am the greatest and some sort of fishing god. Honestly, not to be a stick in the mud, but it just doesn't float my boat. I liked the "guess the kenai king count" contest because it was just a fun sort of contest and really didn't prove anything, and I sure loved taking the winner out for his prize, and plan on following suit next year if I can fish for halibut, but I KNOW there are guys on this forum that if they caught the biggest fish, or a "money" fish, we (and especially I) would never hear the end of it. We all know who those guys are.

    I'll be more than happy to just let the results of the actual derby speak for themselves. It takes a certain degree of skill to be able to catch winter kings, but catching the biggest one really, when you come right down to it, takes a pretty good degree of luck, too. There really is no formula as to where the biggest fish is going to be hanging out on any given day---I've caught 20 plus pounders everywhere from Bear Cove to Pogi---so there certainly is a certain degree of luck in just being in the right place at at the right time.

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  • Homertime
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    Originally posted by Stranded_Herp View Post
    I have never fished this derby, but was thinking about it. Getting a little ancy to play in the salt. Could someone give me a few pointers on tactics?

    Is this strickly a cut plug trolling event off the bluff? Is jigging effective at all for winter kings?
    200+ boats. 800+ anglers. Usually 80-150 fish reported landed. Many off the bluffs. Many around Pogi. Other places inside the bay as well. I've never jigged for them. Don't know anyone who has. A "stationary" boat would be somewhat of a PITA in the middle of the trolling fleet. I personally have never had much luck during the derby, usually falling in with the 85-90% group, but I enjoy the day. I'm guessing the vast majority drag troll herring behind flashers of some sort. It's a nice little "shot of economy" for Homer.

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  • POLE BENDER
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    Originally posted by Muttley Crew Fishing View Post
    Not to be a stick in the mud here, but I think making monetary bets on a public forum like this would be considered illegal. I could be wrong, but it sure would suck for someone to get in trouble for illegal gambling. I know the King Derby has to get a permit to allow the prizes and entry fees and I have a feeling someone getting wind of people "betting" on something like this without obtaining a permit first might be trouble. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
    In case I am wrong in my statement, it could be for bragging rights, rep points or just plain FUN..
    doesn't sound like too many are interested anyway?

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  • skydiver
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    Thanks. Good information.

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