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  • Humboldt Squid in the Bering Sea? Fact or Greenpeace just off a bit...

    Am I off base or wouldn't the fact they saw Humboldt Squid in the Bering Sea be MUCH bigger news than squid being attracted to a submersible???? I thought it was pretty big news when they showed up in SE Alaska and PWS.

    http://www.cnet.com/news/jumbo-squid-attacks-greenpeace-submarine/#ftag=YHF65cbda0



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    "A pair of Greenpeace submariners have had their own "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" experience on an expedition in the Bering Sea -- in a scaled down sort of way. Rather than the Nautilus and a giant squid, the pair were in a Dual Deep Workersubmersible when the encounter occurred.And their attackers weren't a squid of the giant variety, but a pair of Humboldt squids, nicknamed "jumbo squid" or "red devil" for their famed aggression and the red colour the squids turn when in hunting or attack mode."

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    • #3
      I watched the video. Very cool! They sure do look and behave like Humboldt squid. Some years we get quite a few of them around San Francisco. They have been caught in SE Alaska, so not too big of a stretch to find some a bit farther north:


      http://www.thecephalopodpage.org/Dosidicusgigas.php

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      • #4
        Shouldn't the headline be "Greenpeace terrorist actions force squid to defend themselves?"
        Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,
        Teach a man to fish and he'll also learn to drink, lie, and avoid the honey do list.

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        • #5
          Squid like lights. That's how they fish for them, so really no surprise to me.

          As for "Humboldts," I'm going to remain skeptical until someone pulls one from the water and reliably ID's it.

          There's a similar squid up here that gets pretty darned big, though certainly not over a meter. Darned if I can remember the names for it at the moment- either Japanese or scientific. It resembles the Humboldt right down to the cat claws on the tentacles. The Japanese used to trawl for it up here "back in the day" and they took a lot of it. Trawlers here run into it fairly often, especially on night tows. I have several trawler friends who save a few for me when they think of it. Average size, you can get 2 or maybe 3 into a 5-gallon bucket. Never measured, but eyeball sezz the mantles (bodies) are 18-24" long. The meat is 1/2" to 3/4" thick, and cooked right, quite tender. And taaaaaasssstey! I'd never bother with piddly little Loligo squid (aka the market squid from down off Monterey, CA) if I could get a reliable supply of these whoppers.
          "Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
          Merle Haggard

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BrownBear View Post
            Squid like lights. That's how they fish for them, so really no surprise to me.

            As for "Humboldts," I'm going to remain skeptical until someone pulls one from the water and reliably ID's it.

            There's a similar squid up here that gets pretty darned big, though certainly not over a meter. Darned if I can remember the names for it at the moment- either Japanese or scientific. It resembles the Humboldt right down to the cat claws on the tentacles. The Japanese used to trawl for it up here "back in the day" and they took a lot of it. Trawlers here run into it fairly often, especially on night tows. I have several trawler friends who save a few for me when they think of it. Average size, you can get 2 or maybe 3 into a 5-gallon bucket. Never measured, but eyeball sezz the mantles (bodies) are 18-24" long. The meat is 1/2" to 3/4" thick, and cooked right, quite tender. And taaaaaasssstey! I'd never bother with piddly little Loligo squid (aka the market squid from down off Monterey, CA) if I could get a reliable supply of these whoppers.
            I agree. I have been doing some research on Berryteuthis Magister or the armhook squid. Supposedly the most abundant squid in Alaska. Up to 2ft long overall size. These look bigger but hard to tell. Most of the squid seem to be found on the edge of the continental shelf but B Magister seems like their range includes PWS and K-Bay. I've got pretty powerful underwater LED lights. This is the time of year to try them I think. Dark at a reasonable hour but not -10 deg below zero!

            But if they are confirmed as Humboldt Squid, I'd think that's be news!

            Maybe I will start a another thread on night fishing....

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kardinal_84 View Post
              ...Berryteuthis Magister or the armhook squid....
              Dat's it. Thanks. Some reason aka-ika sticks in my mind for the Japanese, but that may be crossed memory circuits.

              They're common in the Shelikof Straight in winter and probably longer, so no surprise on PWS and K-Bay.
              "Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
              Merle Haggard

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              • #8
                Mmmm, I'd love a 5 gallon bucket of squid!
                Those that are successful in Alaska are those who are flexible, and allow the reality of life in Alaska to shape their dreams, vs. trying to force their dreams on the reality of Alaska.

                If you have a tenuous grasp of reality, Alaska is not for you.

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                • #9
                  I hope it's not bad form to share someone else's photo. Whittier Marine Charters posted this one on their Facebook page early this month...

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                  • #10
                    there are 3 different types of very large squid out there , with the humboldt BEING THE SMALEST OF THE 3,
                    not saying that the HUMBOLDT squid is small all .. SID roud:

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Garyak View Post
                      I hope it's not bad form to share someone else's photo. Whittier Marine Charters posted this one on their Facebook page early this month...
                      Sure looks to me like standard Berryteuthis, only on the small side.
                      "Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
                      Merle Haggard

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sid View Post
                        there are 3 different types of very large squid out there , with the humboldt BEING THE SMALEST OF THE 3,
                        not saying that the HUMBOLDT squid is small all .. SID roud:
                        Are you saying that it is known to biologists that the Humboldt Squid is found in the Bering Sea? That would be new information for me. Very interesting....

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                        • #13
                          have no idea if they know if they are there, but in the ocean there are 3 very large SQUID an the HUNBOLDT SQUID is the smallest of the 3,
                          no one ever got a sample of the BEARING SEA large SQUID , it could be different all together from the 3 I spoke about, who knows
                          untill they get a sample an look at it , in the LAB, SID roud:

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BrownBear View Post
                            Dat's it. Thanks. Some reason aka-ika sticks in my mind for the Japanese, but that may be crossed memory circuits.

                            They're common in the Shelikof Straight in winter and probably longer, so no surprise on PWS and K-Bay.
                            You're maybe thinking of Onykia? Onykia Robusta; the old name is Moroteuthis Robusta, the "clubhook squid".... They'll go ten feet and 80 pounds or more, and resemble humboldt squid. Fair chance that's what Greenpeace encountered, tho the way things are changing it's probably only a matter of time before humbolt squid make their way to the Bering.
                            ...he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. ~Thomas Jefferson
                            I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief. ~Gerry Spence
                            The last thing Alaska needs is another bigot. ~member Catch It

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                            • #15
                              As the"""" WIKIPEDIA """"""" list in order of size, the """ Humbodt squid "", then the """Giant squid "", an the largest """Colossal Squid "" , the Colossal can be up tp 40 FT long an that is BIG to me SID roud:

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