I have a question about assist hooks for halibut jigs. How do you think a 10/0 Gamakatsu octopus hook would work? Would it be stong enough to not straighten out on a good fish? I am thinking being I am fishing 65lb line I should be OK. I have a bunch of them and would like to use them up if they will work. What are your thoughts on them?
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I think the wire is a bit thin on them for large fish. I prefer to use owner hooks as they have thicker shorter shanks. Use heavier line than your main line as the line gets chewed up and you want something stiffer than braid as the assist hook can tangle in your main line of the stinger line is too limp.Those that are successful in Alaska are those who are flexible, and allow the reality of life in Alaska to shape their dreams, vs. trying to force their dreams on the reality of Alaska.
If you have a tenuous grasp of reality, Alaska is not for you.
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Originally posted by kgpcr View PostI have a question about assist hooks for halibut jigs. How do you think a 10/0 Gamakatsu octopus hook would work? Would it be stong enough to not straighten out on a good fish? I am thinking being I am fishing 65lb line I should be OK. I have a bunch of them and would like to use them up if they will work. What are your thoughts on them?
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For large vertical jigs I use Gamakatsu Big River siwash hooks...you will never bend one on a fish....and as a bonus they are sticky sharp.
The beauty of assist hooks is the ease of hooking fish that aren't committed to the bite or are not even big enough to take the jig. When fish strike there is suction involved and often times they will pull the cord/hook into their mouths before even making contact with the jig. Example here at about 5:44 of this video...https://vimeo.com/68924327sigpic
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Originally posted by AK2AZ View PostFor large vertical jigs....
I also add longer assists to bucktail, rubber tails or hoochie jigs when I'm getting short strikes.
The price of the danged things offends the heck out of me though. I quit buying them and make all my own using any hook, leader and length I want.
Dirt easy crimping wire or snelling plain old braided Dacron in a loop, then a hunk of shrink tube to stiffen it up if you want, or just to cover the snell and protect it. I figure I make a season's supply of assists for less than most guys pay for a single pack."Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
Merle Haggard
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If you want to make your own, double a hunk of old-style Dacron line and use it to tie a Bumper Knot, the loop out through the eye and adjusted to the length you want. Slip on a piece of shrink tube and hit it with a heat gun, and you're done. Takes about as long to do the job as it did for me to type this.
I like the old-style Dacron because it's incredibly abrasion resistant and cheap. Got about 300 yards of 80# sitting on an old broken halibut reel, so pretty much free. Haven't tried it yet, but I have a couple of spools of "knot-able" wire leader. Should be able to use it the same way without the fuss of crimps.
I see zero reason to pay the price of admission for factory-made assists."Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
Merle Haggard
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I have some Kevlar 250lb line that works great! I tie a few different knots depending on if is a straight eye or up turned eye so i get a straight hook pull. Brown Bear i could not agree more about making them yourself so you dont have to pay the bandit price they charge for them! What size Big River hooks do you use?
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Originally posted by kgpcr View PostI have some Kevlar 250lb line that works great! I tie a few different knots depending on if is a straight eye or up turned eye so i get a straight hook pull. Brown Bear i could not agree more about making them yourself so you dont have to pay the bandit price they charge for them! What size Big River hooks do you use?
What's your source for that Kevlar line.....? been looking to redo some flutter jigs I bought that have crud assist hook line.
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Originally posted by kgpcr View PostWhat size Big River hooks do you use?"Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
Merle Haggard
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Originally posted by BrownBear View PostNone of them. I prefer Owner Cutting Point hooks. Yeah, they're more expensive, but they're lots sharper and they stay sharp a lot longer. I use 10/0 for the largest jigs, dropping down as small as 5/0 for smaller jigs. In fact it's the one and only hook I'll use for trolling and mooching, too.
Unfortunately a ~100 pounder broke off and took this jig as lip jewelry.Those that are successful in Alaska are those who are flexible, and allow the reality of life in Alaska to shape their dreams, vs. trying to force their dreams on the reality of Alaska.
If you have a tenuous grasp of reality, Alaska is not for you.
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One word of caution on assists, whether homemade or store-bought. Because you're rigging them to the top ring on the jig, stiffness is important. Too soft and there's a good change the hook will reach up and wrap itself around your line as the jig sinks fast toward the bottom. I handle the stiffness issue with the length of the shrink tubing I use. Problem solved. Just don't make the mistake of using soft braid or mono, then not adding any shrink tube to stiffen."Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
Merle Haggard
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Dittos on the assist hook needing to have a sufficiently stiff leader. I've found dacron is too limp and will tangle with the main line on the drop. Kevlar seems to be just stiff enough, but does get chewed up over time. Here's another on roustabout jig with a fresh owner assist hook
Those that are successful in Alaska are those who are flexible, and allow the reality of life in Alaska to shape their dreams, vs. trying to force their dreams on the reality of Alaska.
If you have a tenuous grasp of reality, Alaska is not for you.
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