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  • How do you fish beads? Technique, rigging, rod choice, etc...

    I am heading to the Upper Kenai in mid Sept for some rainbow fishing. Figure I will be fishing beads a good bit, but this is a new technique for me. To date, I have only limited experience fishing beads. I wanted to ask how you fish beads. Surely there are different approaches used. Perhaps by sharing some insights here we can learn something. By we, I mean I, but you get the point

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    How you rig your bead/hook/strike indicator?


    What type of fly line and leader do you use?


    What rod you prefer for bead fishing? (wt/length)


    What basic technique you employ?


    What types of water you look for?


    What size bead do you use most often?


    How long do you fish a non-productive bead before changing color/size?








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  • #2
    Beads - the bare naked truth.

    The rest of your questions are either personal preference (rod wt/sz) or impossible to answer in short form (the last 3).

    Short story for beads: a lot of folks have a lot of different methods, but past the "peg a bead on a line, with a hook and some shot; make a cast; if it stops, jerk" advice, there is a lot of room for personal expression.

    Basic Kenai rig is 10ft leader, 18" tippet, with lb/test a personal preference sorta thing...Splitshot goes on at the leader/tippet connection. Hook make/style/size is personal preference, but you don't need larger than sz4. How you tie on your hook and peg your bead is also personal preference...once again, some ways are better than others, but they all work to some degree. Slap an indicator on at the flyline/leader junction, and you are off to the races. Indicator choice? Personal preference once again.

    I had good success in last year's high water with a 12' 14-12lb full-fluoro leader, no indicator, sz 7 shot, 24" 8lb tippet, 6mm handpainted bead pegged 1.5" above a snelled sz6 Owner ssw cutting point on 8# sunline fluoro fished on a 7wt 11' winston bIIx with 7wt sharkskin magnum taper. My boat rig was identical leader-wise, 1" thingamabobber indicator, sz 5 shot, 18" 10lb tippet, same bead setup, fished on a 7wt 10' winston bIIx with 7wt Rio grand.

    Check out the article if you haven't already...Mike lays it out pretty well.
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    • #3
      Ill give you the scoop around the fire the night before we hit the river the 1st time together. My first thing is. fish them in the water. I run 10ft of leader. Straight mono, 12lb test. Bead 2 inches above the hook pegged with a toothpick. Strike indicator/bobercator where my mono and fly line meets.

      Flip drift mend
      flip drift mend
      Set the hook
      Take picture
      release fish
      flip again:eek:

      Grandkids, Making big tough guys hearts melt at first sight

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      • #4
        Originally posted by alaskachuck View Post

        My first thing is. fish them in the water.

        There is one in every group

        I will look forward to it man. Just bored now and in need of something to read. I have worn the lettering off my G, O, O, G, L, and E buttons lately. Hit a dry spell it seems. I did order Gunnar Pederson's "Kenai River" book and a map of the Upper Kenai from the forum store just tonight. Gunnar is the man. His "Alaska Fishing" book is among my all time favorites. Can't wait to get another one of his books. Might help keep me sane till spring.




        G Smolt,

        Good info as always man.

        I do appreciate it and the link to www.alaskaflyfishinggoods.com

        They have the nicest website I have ever seen for a fly shop.

        Brad and the guys at that fly shop in Juneau are awesome. Just no better place to buy flies from. Their egg sucking Hareball leech is THE fly for trophy dollies.






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        • #5
          thread bead on line, tie on hook put some splitshot somewhere, maybe an indicator (usually not) mend mend mend.

          pegging is overrated, its all about mending and getting a good drift, the only time I peg is when I am fishing to a fish that I need a weighted nymph below my bead to get a good drift, or if I want to fish a nymph and a bead in single hook waters.
          I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
            thread bead on line, tie on hook put some splitshot somewhere, maybe an indicator (usually not) mend mend mend.

            pegging is overrated, its all about mending and getting a good drift, the only time I peg is when I am fishing to a fish that I need a weighted nymph below my bead to get a good drift, or if I want to fish a nymph and a bead in single hook waters.

            Lets just say I would fish against anyone with a pegged bead vrs a unpegged and hands down the pegged bead will out fish any unpegged bead.

            Other thoughts... The less weight the better, the smaller the shot the better, evenly space the shot, and try not to exceed 18" of leader and maximize the distance to the hook from the bead (2" is legal 3" is perfect, oh well). Long light leaders minimize the amount of leader needed, use heavier tippets then the leader and use light long butt sections to minimize taper to leader diameter.

            While just any bead will work there are magic colors of course, but more importantly bead fishing is a very very technical type of nymphing and very subtle changes in leader diameter, length, amount of weight used, and of course how well u mend will all effect success rates.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by TYNMON View Post
              Lets just say I would fish against anyone with a pegged bead vrs a unpegged and hands down the pegged bead will out fish any unpegged bead.
              I'll take that bet
              I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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              • #8
                YOUR ON I want in on this one and I am a pegger
                Grandkids, Making big tough guys hearts melt at first sight

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                • #9
                  unpegged

                  If you don't peg the bead, doesn't it slide the length of your tippet? Wouldn't that make it more likely to hook a fish outside the mouth, possibly the eyes or gills? Or is there something I am not seeing here?

                  Jake
                  All the romance of trout fishing exists in the mind of the angler and is in no way shared by the fish.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jakec5253 View Post
                    If you don't peg the bead, doesn't it slide the length of your tippet? Wouldn't that make it more likely to hook a fish outside the mouth, possibly the eyes or gills? Or is there something I am not seeing here?

                    Jake

                    Im on the same thought as you Jake. Alot of guys will tie a "knot" a couple of inch's above the hook and let the bead slide up from there. If we are talking the kenai too remember guys, as was stated in an earlier thread, 2 inches minimum bead above hook pegged or not.

                    I dont think they are getting any bad hook up with the bead floating as long as it cannot get down to the tp of the hook
                    Grandkids, Making big tough guys hearts melt at first sight

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                    • #11
                      2 inches

                      You mean 2" or less above the hook?

                      The following is from page 11 of the sport fishing regs

                      In flowing waters of West Cook Inlet, Kenai Peninsula, Anchorage Bowl,
                      Knik Arm, and Susitna River drainages (Cook Inlet drainage flowing
                      waters) attractors (beads) when used with a fly, lure, or bare hook must
                      be either fixed within two inches of the hook or free sliding on the line
                      or leader


                      Jake
                      All the romance of trout fishing exists in the mind of the angler and is in no way shared by the fish.

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                      • #12
                        What do you mean by "mend"?

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                        • #13
                          mending

                          mending is keeping the belly of your line upstream of your indicator/fly, which gives a more drag free drift.
                          All the romance of trout fishing exists in the mind of the angler and is in no way shared by the fish.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
                            I'll take that bet
                            "Oh how unwise of choice that is."
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by big_dog60 View Post
                              What do you mean by "mend"?
                              Drag free drift, keep the line directly above the indicator upstream and pace the rest of the line for the speed of the drift. Overmending is a non indicater technique, called greasing. So, don't have all you line above your indicator tight, a series of "S" is prefered.
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