I was using 6ib and 8 ib tip it on the russian last week. I lost allot of fish due to it breaking. I was beading fishing. If I go with a heaver tip it will that be to big IE 10ib?
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Also watch out for "wind knots" from throwing tailing loops. These seem to compromise fluorocarbon even more than nylon.
For mating fluoro to nylon, match the diameters at that particular junction rather than tapering, then be sure to wet the knot before tightening. Best yet, build your whole leader out of fluoro. The advantage is that some of the larger fluoros (especially from P-Line) are stiffer, making them ideal for leader butts and improving handling with larger or heavier flies, and especially indicators. My stunt is match the fly line diameter with the fluoro at the butt, then taper down from there. Those leaders really turn over at the end of a cast, even with heavy or bulky flies."Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
Merle Haggard
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Where do you get the larger fluorocarbon material?
Brownbear,
Where do you get the heavier flourocarbon material? The meatiest stuff I've been able to find is 35 lb test. I forget what the diameter is, but it's small enough that I get a bad hinge point with the fly line if I tie a tapered flourocarbon leader directly to the line. I've resorted to using mono for the butt section only and tapering down with fluoro. Haven't had a problem with the knot at the mono-fluoro interface.
AlaskaGray - sorry to go off on a tangent from your original question.
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I get mine at the local sports shop. P Line fluoro leader is really stiff, and reminds me a whole lot of the old Mason leader material we used for steelhead on the West Coast and Canada in the 60's and 70's. The 40# NEVER hinges with a good nail knot, but it's death on loop connections- It's so stiff that loops on flylines turn into swinging doors. Don't know the diameter on the 40, but it's awfully close to that of the front taper on most WF floating fly lines. My best taper combo for leaders is 40#, 30#, 25#, 20#, 15#, 12#, 10# and then down to whatever you want. You can accent the turnover effect by going progressively shorter for the 40 through 20. By that I mean on a 9' leader I usually start with 2' of 40#, 1.5' of 30#, 1.25' of 25#, 1' of 20#, then 1.25' of 15# and 1.5' of 12". If you want shorter, on the order of 7', go with a foot each.
I've got no connection to the P Line folks, and the only stock I own is a good stock of their leader spools. The stuff is HOT for turning over big stuff, as well as for building butts for extra long leaders used fishing the small stuff to smart trout in thin water. Come to think of it, I wish I did own a piece of the company!"Lay in the weeds and wait, and when you get your chance to say something, say something good."
Merle Haggard
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