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  • Akgramps
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    Originally posted by cjjeeper View Post

    Yes...thats the boat
    About Drum winch....follow up question to be fair i never installed or tried out the second winch, it looked good and uncannily similar to a lone star. It probably works fine, but I suspect the free fall feature could may be problematic. The big thing was how the company dealt with a customer and servicing what they sell. I know i never have and never will treat a customer in that way.

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  • cjjeeper
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    Originally posted by Akgramps View Post
    Yes...thats the boat

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  • cjjeeper
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    Originally posted by bkmail View Post
    Yes, we have 1050 foot packages of synthetic and double braid for the gx 3 winch. 1000 foot same pkg for the gx4 winch, as well as the regular double braid in 420 foot that many use. You have options on each winch size, made for the Lone Star winch. If I can be of any help or educate you on the difference between EZ pull and Lone Star, I would be happy too.<br/>However, these guys above have made some very good points.<br/>Commercial guys are swapping over to LS, boat builders are buying from us, and tons of Lewmar are being replaced.<br/>Again, I welcome anyone to call, Im happy to help. 907-233-6399<br/>Bk<br/>Ps-Watch this independent test lab torture test<br/><br/><br/>https://youtu.be/t66J1uhBpMI<br/><br/><br/>Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    thanks..I might be calling...

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  • cjjeeper
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    Originally posted by Akgramps View Post
    I didnt read all the reply's, but I can say I have had both, I had a earlier generation EZ, (bought 2017). I will try to make this short... First problems were when the 2 mm pin in the clutch broke..... It was a less than two season old and had a personal guarantee from the owner of EZ he would guarantee the winch as I bought it a season before it went into use so I could build the pulpit etc.

    Contacted EZ for the 2 mm pin, OH, he says we have redesigned our winch and no longer "support" that design or offer ANY parts..... ! Not even a 2 MM ss cotter pin....! Ordered a bag of 100 from McMaster, not a big deal but aggravating none the less. Next season we were anchored in Gravina catching yellow eye, anchor got hung, pulled a bit hard and broke off the grub screws that anchor the hub to the shaft, part of the free wheeling system.... .... What a mess, contacted EZ, same reply..... NOW what, remove parts, drag them back to town and make my own 5/16" grub screws.... (To be honest I may have pulled too hard, current or wind, its gonna happen... still it should not have failed, I believe a LS would pull your boat under before it would fail....!) To their credit EZ offers me a good deal on a updated winch and I go for it.

    I fix the old winch to get me through the season, the new winch arrives, looks pretty good, except, it has the same 5/16" grub screws as the original winch..... UNBELIEVABLE....! OK, the old ones were slotted the new ones are allen.... Anyway the winch looks good, but I dont trust EZ and will not put another product of theirs on my boat... Sold them both and bought a Lone Star form Brian, works great, power in, power out, just like they have been doing for years, sure its a little slower and dropping the hook when fishing requires a little planning.... But its a solid unit, I asked LS about freefall and they said too many parts to fail for them... this is my experience yours may differ...
    Thanks for the info... good to know.

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  • bkmail
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    Yes, we have 1050 foot packages of synthetic and double braid for the gx 3 winch. 1000 foot same pkg for the gx4 winch, as well as the regular double braid in 420 foot that many use. You have options on each winch size, made for the Lone Star winch. If I can be of any help or educate you on the difference between EZ pull and Lone Star, I would be happy too.<br/>However, these guys above have made some very good points.<br/>Commercial guys are swapping over to LS, boat builders are buying from us, and tons of Lewmar are being replaced.<br/>Again, I welcome anyone to call, Im happy to help. 907-233-6399<br/>Bk<br/>Ps-Watch this independent test lab torture test<br/><br/><br/>https://youtu.be/t66J1uhBpMI<br/><br/><br/>Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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  • yanert
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ID:	2757799 I have a LS G4 and been anchoring up to about 350'. I started doing something similar to Daveinthebush, I check out the wind and current direction, line up on the spot going into the current, lower the anchor as I approach to about 50' off the bottom. When over my chosen spot drop the anchor to the bottom. I plan a certain amount of scope so the stern of the boat is more or less over my spot. I don't always hit it but am getting better. This is my first year with a drum winch, had a couple Lewmars before. A couple people I've talked to with drum winches with free fall are always repairing their free fall parts. The only problem I've had is not the winch but the soft black rubber roller on the bow spirit, replacing it with a yellow nylon roller should solve that. The anchor line which is also from LoneStar has pulled down into the side of the roller and gotten stuck twice. A larger diameter anchor line probably would not have this problem with the black roller. Anyway I would never consider any other type of winch. I suggest marking your anchor line so you have an idea of how much line you out.
    Last edited by yanert; 07-06-2020, 09:30.

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  • Daveinthebush
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    My Lone Star has been flawless. The hand held remote is so handy to help when the line snarls or I just want to rewind it on the dock. Anyone not running a drum these days is missing out on something awesome.

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  • Akgramps
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    Originally posted by cjjeeper View Post
    Hello,

    A couple of seasons ago the owner of a brew pub down town ANC was building a North River Offshore boat. On that boat he was installing a drum winch for deep anchoring.....its a sort of black and high vis green boat....I think the name is "Buzz Off".

    I saw the boat yesterday in the harbor at PWS.

    I'm interested in looking for a drum winch and wanted to know what he ended up running...if someone can find the thread. (I can't even find advanced search on this new layout...).. that would be appreciated.

    Also I'm currently looking at EzAnchor Puller and LoneStar, if anyone wants to chime in feedback on that.

    Specifically I'm looking to run 1000" feet of 1/4" rode.

    Thanks for the help!
    Is This the boat?

    https://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com...900-build-pics

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  • Akgramps
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    I didnt read all the reply's, but I can say I have had both, I had a earlier generation EZ, (bought 2017). I will try to make this short... First problems were when the 2 mm pin in the clutch broke..... It was a less than two season old and had a personal guarantee from the owner of EZ he would guarantee the winch as I bought it a season before it went into use so I could build the pulpit etc.

    Contacted EZ for the 2 mm pin, OH, he says we have redesigned our winch and no longer "support" that design or offer ANY parts..... ! Not even a 2 MM ss cotter pin....! Ordered a bag of 100 from McMaster, not a big deal but aggravating none the less. Next season we were anchored in Gravina catching yellow eye, anchor got hung, pulled a bit hard and broke off the grub screws that anchor the hub to the shaft, part of the free wheeling system.... .... What a mess, contacted EZ, same reply..... NOW what, remove parts, drag them back to town and make my own 5/16" grub screws.... (To be honest I may have pulled too hard, current or wind, its gonna happen... still it should not have failed, I believe a LS would pull your boat under before it would fail....!) To their credit EZ offers me a good deal on a updated winch and I go for it.

    I fix the old winch to get me through the season, the new winch arrives, looks pretty good, except, it has the same 5/16" grub screws as the original winch..... UNBELIEVABLE....! OK, the old ones were slotted the new ones are allen.... Anyway the winch looks good, but I dont trust EZ and will not put another product of theirs on my boat... Sold them both and bought a Lone Star form Brian, works great, power in, power out, just like they have been doing for years, sure its a little slower and dropping the hook when fishing requires a little planning.... But its a solid unit, I asked LS about freefall and they said too many parts to fail for them... this is my experience yours may differ...

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  • Alasgun
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    We circle the wagons, looking the ground over on the plotter, line up according to what the tides doing and pitch em in. At 70 i can still launch gear at 7 or 8 knots and with 100 ft spacing theyre flat enough for me. This is a 4 pot string, id not care to try this with any more gear as it gets to be a lot of fast thinking and occasionally some dancing.
    a lot of folks dont consider the direction of the tide. I dont care what its doing when launching, id do care where the buoy will be when i pick them up! I want it over the gear, not strung out another 400ft or so.
    if a problem develops ill either hold em back to get them tight Again or if theres a bad tangle i just retrieve and relaunch, been working for over 15 years and have not lost any pots.
    hit mark and work the real-estate progressively. This year we kept track and from the time i bring the buoy onboard till i toss it back, were 15 minutes or less. Then we bust off the tails!

    * i oughta read the whole thread, sorry. No wonder it seemed odd to me probably seemed odd to you too.
    Last edited by Alasgun; 06-25-2020, 17:48.

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  • kwackkillncrew
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    Originally posted by potbuilder View Post

    So you drift them out ?
    thats what we do too find which way the current/wind is pushing us and lead the spot where we want to hit. didnt know people drag them to the spot. sorry for high jack

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  • cjjeeper
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    Originally posted by Daveinthebush View Post
    If you are in Valdez I am in slip G14. I have a Lonestar G3. It has 420' (5/16")with rode and chain. You could also use 1/4" synthetic. I don't know why you need 1,000. Brian at BK Marine can give you the capacities of the G3/G4 which might hold enough for you. I love the Lonestar with a remote. 95% of the time I can pull from the cabin and no issues. If I break the wire ties on the anchor/chain then it comes up funky and needs help as it won't fit under the guide on the front of the roller. I can even sit on the dock with the remote and unwind the rode and straighten out any possible issues. Love it!

    Thanks for the offer. Not in Valdez but much appreciated.


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  • Daveinthebush
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    Originally posted by potbuilder View Post

    So you drift them out ?
    Pretty much. The wind/tide puts enough pressure on the rope to pull it out and enough that I can hang onto the rope to tighten and lay the set down. If I put the boat in power it is just too much force.

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  • potbuilder
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    Originally posted by Daveinthebush View Post

    What works for some people, doesn't for others. It is just a personal preference thing. It's like dropping shrimp pots in a particular spot. I look at the boats drift, where am I headed without power. I start dropping 40-50 yards the other side of my spot and let all three just fall. Straight down over the side as the boat moves by natures power. Bottom pot is weighted and I let the bottom pot hit. Then apply just hand pressure to lay the string down. It takes maybe 4 minutes for the first pot to hit bottom, my line is marked so I know how many feet are out. Some people like to drag the pots under power as soon as the third pot is overboard. They're just dragging their gear off of their spot. It isn't an exact science but works for me.
    So you drift them out ?

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  • Daveinthebush
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    Originally posted by patrickL View Post

    Dave seems to have a technique that works but I struggled to figure out how to hit a desired spot with a power down winch. I have had much better luck with the free fall styles than with the power down models. Perhaps I'm just not smart enough to have figured it out
    What works for some people, doesn't for others. It is just a personal preference thing. It's like dropping shrimp pots in a particular spot. I look at the boats drift, where am I headed without power. I start dropping 40-50 yards the other side of my spot and let all three just fall. Straight down over the side as the boat moves by natures power. Bottom pot is weighted and I let the bottom pot hit. Then apply just hand pressure to lay the string down. It takes maybe 4 minutes for the first pot to hit bottom, my line is marked so I know how many feet are out. Some people like to drag the pots under power as soon as the third pot is overboard. They're just dragging their gear off of their spot. It isn't an exact science but works for me.

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