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    Can a pilots FAA identification number be looked up, and verified?
    I believe the FAA assigns a number, an identification number, or a license number to every pilot. I understand that this number stays the same even when a private pilot becomes a commercial pilot. And I believe the number stays with the originally assigned pilot even if he stops flying, or dies, or whatever.

    This may be similar to a guide license number. The State of Alaska assigns a number to every licensed guide, and that number remains attached to the person even after they stop renewing their license. And, even if the guide stops paying for his license renewal, this number can be easily researched with only a persons name through the State of Alaska website.

    I know my example is getting into the apples and oranges type argument.
    But can anybody advise me on how to search FAA online information to verify if an individual is, or has ever been a pilot?

    Thanks in advance....................IBEX

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    Mr Pid,
    Thanks for the fast responce.
    This here internet thing is amazing.
    Amazing what can be found out 'bout oneanother.
    About who is a real aviator/flyer, and who is a "conversational pilot".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibex View Post
    Can a pilots FAA identification number be looked up, and verified?
    I believe the FAA assigns a number, an identification number, or a license number to every pilot. I understand that this number stays the same even when a private pilot becomes a commercial pilot. And I believe the number stays with the originally assigned pilot even if he stops flying, or dies, or whatever.

    This may be similar to a guide license number. The State of Alaska assigns a number to every licensed guide, and that number remains attached to the person even after they stop renewing their license. And, even if the guide stops paying for his license renewal, this number can be easily researched with only a persons name through the State of Alaska website.

    I know my example is getting into the apples and oranges type argument.
    But can anybody advise me on how to search FAA online information to verify if an individual is, or has ever been a pilot?

    Thanks in advance....................IBEX
    Guide license (Alaska Registered Guide) was a State of Alaska number, assigned by the Guide Licensing and Control Board. Perhaps that's changed over the years. The pilot certificate numbers are assisgned by the FAA, and are (or used to be) lifetime numbers. Seems as though someone told me that they went to SSNs a while back, but are no longer using those. I'm not sure of that, though Mr. Pid will certainly know.

    The guide liciense number numbering system changed several times over the years, too, though I don't know why. The Alaska Professional Hunters Association (APHA) assigned its own numbers to its members.

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    A pilots FAA assigned license number can be changed by the FAA or at the request of the pilot. Mine has been changed.
    Plus the FAA system may only show the last time a license action was taken. So you might have somebody who had a license for 35 years and then changed something two years ago. The date shown in the FAA system might only show an issuance from two years back.
    For example,, a year or two ago we all had to get new licenses that said "ENGLISH PROFICIENT" ,,, which is stupid since you can't get the license without being so,,,, But anyway we all had to send in our $4 and get a new license. So now the last issue date shown will be that date.

    Their system also has a bad habit of not showing folks with expired FAA flight medicals. Or in some cases showing people as being expired on the computer while they are showing me a perfectly good medical from last year.

    Plus it does not show military flight ratings.

    The FAA computer system is only as good as the $11 an hour employee that they hired to input the data
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    My insurance company does a better job of making sure I am current than the darn FAA computer system.

    The Landings data base is another good place to look.
    http://www.landings.com/evird.acgi$pass*193269772!_h-www.landings.com/_landings/pages/search.html
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    Until about a year ago pilot certs used the pilot's social security number. All pilots were required to change our pilot licenses to a new plastic card with a new (not ssn) pilot number and an endorsement that we are proficient in the English language. The old paper pilot licenses are obsolete by now if I remember right. My new license was free because the ssn# had to be removed from the document. The English language thing was a requirement of the international aviation system, not the FAA. The FAA just had to administer it. I think mechanics did something similar. They used to use their ssn for the mechanic's cert, too.

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    I changed my number 8 years ago because I was writing the old number into clients log-books.
    I changed over to prove I could speak Gringo shortly after the February 11, 2008 date when they said all new licenses would be required to have it. Particularly since I fly through Canada every now and again. (Although NOBODY in Canada has ever checked. )
    I remember during the 1970s when the military had US use our SSN instead of a service number. Here we were at airports with our SSN stenciled down the side of our duffel bags. in huge block print. I wonder who's idea that was....
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    A good investigator always abides by the laws of reasoning and justifiable cause because otherwise itís simply abuse of process. Conclusively, I wonder how many of these posts could be traced M-F between 8 and 5. People must have all sorts of time on their hands..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pid View Post
    Until about a year ago pilot certs used the pilot's social security number. All pilots were required to change our pilot licenses to a new plastic card with a new (not ssn) pilot number and an endorsement that we are proficient in the English language. The old paper pilot licenses are obsolete by now if I remember right. My new license was free because the ssn# had to be removed from the document. The English language thing was a requirement of the international aviation system, not the FAA. The FAA just had to administer it. I think mechanics did something similar. They used to use their ssn for the mechanic's cert, too.
    Though my licensure goes back to 1955, the most current I can find is dated September, 1978 (address change). It shows the number originally assigned (1368045). It ALSO shows my SSN. The SSN showed on the face of my license(s) until at least 1973, though my license number has never changed. Current license(s) do not show my SSN, and the original number is still the same certificate number. The note "ENGLISH PROFICIENT" first appeared on my first plastic license (again for an address change) in 2008, though I don't know how that was determined.

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