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    Default Smolt/Alvein.

    So been working on some smolt/alvein patterns to use on saturday and this is what i came up with. Will they work?

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    One more. Found some epoxy and gave it a try, egg is painted with hard as nails nail polish
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    I'd recommend using pearl tubing instead of silver. for extra credit do a silver underbody, that'll make a translucenty silvery smolt snack.
    I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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    How do you apply the epoxy? Its getting a little messy around here and could use a tip or two on the epoxy smolt!

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    I would of used Pearl if I had it. I use a tooth pick to apply the epoxy
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    I agree with the pearl when talking about the alvein but smolt at least sockeye smolt are 2-3inches and shiny chrome. I don't think the sockeye smolt have the par marks when charging out to sea.

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    On Wed I went to see Mossy and he showed me how to tie an epoxy minow..........pretty easy stuff. First time I ever heard of or saw a "fly dryer". But Any way the point of this was that I had an idea last night while I was trying to go to sleep.............make an epoxy alvin?????? I don't know how one would do this just glue the bead or whatever to the under side??????? Any thoughts or ideas? I seriously doubt I am the first person to think this up so lets here any thoughts or ideas from my "Fly Nerds".........you know who you are you two!!!!!!!!! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Riddle View Post
    I agree with the pearl when talking about the alvein but smolt at least sockeye smolt are 2-3inches and shiny chrome. I don't think the sockeye smolt have the par marks when charging out to sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franken Fish View Post
    How do you apply the epoxy? Its getting a little messy around here and could use a tip or two on the epoxy smolt!
    from what I saw the trick is to "wrap the epoxy" when you apply it.... I know it sounds funny but just globing on there will make your fly uneven.

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    If you are going to use something hard for the yok sack I would reccomend tying the fly with the hook riding up. I lost a lot of fish a few years ago bc there wasn't a big enough gap between the yok sack and hook.
    I prefer bright silver for the bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayintrout View Post
    If you are going to use something hard for the yok sack I would reccomend tying the fly with the hook riding up. I lost a lot of fish a few years ago bc there wasn't a big enough gap between the yok sack and hook.
    I prefer bright silver for the bodies.
    hey that is a really good idea!!!!! Thanks for sharing that one......it would have taken me a bit to figure that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayintrout View Post
    If you are going to use something hard for the yok sack I would reccomend tying the fly with the hook riding up.
    Thats how you would do it.

    Kenaibow- instead of glueing a bead on there just add more epoxy to where you want the egg, giving the appearance of it "dripping" and use some sally hensen hard as nails polish to paint the egg.
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    Kenaibowfan: I must be missing the meaning...

    Colored hot glue for egg sac. Get a bunch ready for epoxy and hot glue and go at it...


    George

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    After some trial and error over the last couple years this is the alevin pattern I've come up with as my "standard" - it's an epoxy alevin and pretty easy all around.

    Chenille for egg sack.
    Marabou or small mylar tube for body.
    Small rubber tubing for head with black chenille pulled through for eyes.
    Coat the whole mess with epoxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyo2AK View Post
    After some trial and error over the last couple years this is the alevin pattern I've come up with as my "standard" - it's an epoxy alevin and pretty easy all around.

    Chenille for egg sack.
    Marabou or small mylar tube for body.
    Small rubber tubing for head with black chenille pulled through for eyes.
    Coat the whole mess with epoxy.

    I have to say those are probably the best lookin alevin pattern I've ever seen Wyo2ak. Nice job. You are definitely an artist at the vice. You should take those to the fly shop. You could sell those in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Riddle View Post
    I agree with the pearl when talking about the alvein but smolt at least sockeye smolt are 2-3inches and shiny chrome. I don't think the sockeye smolt have the par marks when charging out to sea.

    George
    Sockeye smolt have parr marks chum and pinks don't the parr marks do fade the closer they are to the sea however they are very visible above the lateral line and when looking down on the fish. Since fish feed from below they probably aren't that necessary in fly design
    I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
    Sockeye smolt have parr marks chum and pinks don't the parr marks do fade the closer they are to the sea however they are very visible above the lateral line and when looking down on the fish. Since fish feed from below they probably aren't that necessary in fly design
    Great info... thanks! I'd rep you again if I could.
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    I've handled more smolt than I care to think about at work lol
    I choose to fly fish, not because its easy, but because its hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenaibow fan View Post
    "Fly Nerds".........you know who you are you two!!!!!!!!! LOL
    Who would you be referring to here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Riddle View Post
    Kenaibowfan: I must be missing the meaning...

    Colored hot glue for egg sac. Get a bunch ready for epoxy and hot glue and go at it...


    George
    ditto that first part...
    a few tricks for working with hot glue is use a pair of forceps to hold your hook/fly... rotate the hook as the glue is applied, then once you have your desired shape dunk it in a cold cup of water for a quick second... sometimes you can mold the glue with your fingers but only as its cooling... and/or use a lighter to re-heat for shaping

    as far as epoxy goes... line your work area with cardboard and keep some rags handy!

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