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    i was just wandering what most of you 223 shooters use as a "fur load"? i have been reasurching the v-max and A-max bullets for a good hide saving load. i would rather not shoot fmjs and risk a non leathal or inhumane hit. also has anyone ever had any expireance with the varmit grenade on predators?

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    I am shooting the Nosler BT 40 gr. Using IMR 4198 powder at 23.0 grains and WSR primer. Caution this is a max load. I have only shot 3 criters with this load so far and have not had one to exit yet. On smaler game this might be to much fur damage. I did shoot a red fox facing me and the bullet did not exit.

    This is one of the first rounds that I have used for fur with a hot load. I usually slow my bullet down to help with fur damage.

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    I've had some horrendous damage from the 223 Vmax bullets. FMJ's in the 223 haven't been an issue and have dropped them dead on the spot. I have a friend who kills a ton of coyotes in the states and has had excellent luck with in the .223 50grain Sierra Blitz King's. It's tough if you're looking for a caliber to save fur on all the critters. Either slower FMJ's to minimize holes or trying to keep the bullet inside is the solution.

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    Now I haven't shot my favorite bullet in the 223, yet. I have been shooting a Speer 52gr HP out of my 22-250 for 25 plus years. I get 3760fps and this rarely exits. Usually stays inside. I have worked up some loads for my RRA AR but haven't had a chance to shoot them yet. Haven't shot anything but coyotes with it and some dogs that were chewing on our goats.
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    joefish,

    did you get my PM?
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    The Varmit gerenades will tear the hide up, in my experience

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    FMJ are pretty much the only way to go.

    Lots out here have went to the "grenades" and they worked well. seen quite a few with just a small hole in and no exit. Were shot with a 17 though.
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    I use a 50gr nosler ballistic tip with 26.5 gr w748 at 3260 this load works with no fur damage
    also a 50gr nosler ballistic tip with 24.2gr of reloader 10 at 3389 works good exit hole is not to bad
    this is what i used to take many coyote and bobcat in oregon with great luck

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    no stanly i didnt recieve a pm,

    at first i was all for fmjs but the last coyote i shot had a apple sized hole on the exit. i barly nicked the shoulder and even that small amount of bone made a huge hole. what is the smallest grain bullet you guys have tryed? and to clear things up i mean fur load for fox, lynx, and coyote. i dont relode yet, i have a freind who dose so im trying to figure out what load to for. are the hotter loads worse on fur?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joefish00000 View Post
    no stanly i didnt recieve a pm,

    at first i was all for fmjs but the last coyote i shot had a apple sized hole on the exit. i barly nicked the shoulder and even that small amount of bone made a huge hole. what is the smallest grain bullet you guys have tryed? and to clear things up i mean fur load for fox, lynx, and coyote. i dont relode yet, i have a freind who dose so im trying to figure out what load to for. are the hotter loads worse on fur?
    Joe
    As you have seen, a FMJ isn't always the answer. A light, fast bullet "should" explode inside the chest cavity, when things go as planned. problems can arise if the bullet hits a stalk of grass or small twig and starts to open before contact with the target. This could result in a large entry hole or even a superficial blow up on the skin (only wounding the animal). You could also get full penetration/exit resulting in a large exit hole, though I think this is going to be a very low percentage problem.
    IMO, the light fast bullet is still the way to go - as long as we're talking 22 caliber (or smaller) ammo.
    Hand loading is a facinating hobby and the way to go (IMO). If you find the results with a given bullet are too explosive, you can always slow it down a little or try another bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanly View Post
    Now I haven't shot my favorite bullet in the 223, yet. I have been shooting a Speer 52gr HP out of my 22-250 for 25 plus years. I get 3760fps and this rarely exits. Usually stays inside. I have worked up some loads for my RRA AR but haven't had a chance to shoot them yet. Haven't shot anything but coyotes with it and some dogs that were chewing on our goats.
    I shoot the same thing in my 22-250. This hollow point will sometimes tear the heck out of a fox, so I switched to the fmj with no problems on the exit. I have shot 10 or so coyotes with the fmj and they died in their tracks!! Federal use to sell a 22-250 40 grain blitz factory loaded and you could shoot a jackrabbit and the bullet wouldn't exit!! I never tried them on fox as I was leaving Montana to return to Alaska for good, college was over. I love my 50 as I call it and I reload the 70 grain Speer soft point for deer.

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    I am another 223 55gr FMJ user. It has worked quite well so far and I see no need to change.

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    I only have fox here so a 25g bullet in 17 cal at 3300fps is about as perfect as it gets. .172" entrance and that's it. Hornady HP or Starke rpvb, both do great.

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